• SONAR
  • Did you switch to SONAR? Tell us your story. (p.26)
2008/04/23 03:24:59
Fluc
Greetings!

First I want to thank all cakewalk team for their great job.

Long time ago I tried cubase 3x + reason(for drums) and found it very uncomfortable with my emu usb card, I had a dropout whenever my cpu loaded up to 30%.
Then I found Sonar which is IMHO best daw available now. I don't want to enumerate the box of its benefits because of laziness :) I just think that it is amazingly flexible for personalization and customization without loosing usability advantages which are very important for music making. You can create the whole "dimension" for yourself. Also bouncing, freezing, archiving for saving ram are great functions. The audio on\off button is great !!))) Everything is great - key bindings, menu layouts, plugin manager etc etc etc..

I tried the new daw Reaper recently - it's nice but Sonar better ). The main thing that pushes reaper is that the guys who are bosses there, have the same concept as web 2.0 startup has(the endless beta huh), hence the whole feel and look of that daw is like if it was a some kind of a web startup (as I know, it is even written on java) - light weight, pleasant colors, VERY USABLE AND INTUITIVE etc. I think that these merits are very important today and wish Cakewalk to implement them more even. With reaper I have the same count of dropouts as I had with cubase..

I also tried the recent version of fruity loops and found it also very nice fun and usable.

But IMHO Sonar is the best daw for now because of its reach functional advantages in split with total control over the menus, colors etc. It is mature and serious but not so much as cubase is(which feels like severe music production program). Its friendly, quite usable, quite simple, stable, very logic and supports hardware very well (I have no dropouts with my usb emu card anymore). It is exactly how the serious creative environment should be.

But there are still several things that want some more attention such as

- The envelopes editing should be much more smooth and obvious(simple).
- Something like reaper's fx chains.
- Some kind of mixer layout switcher window to select custom mixer layouts without any right clicking and ticking..
- To disable(maybe I didn't find how) the sounding when you draw things in piano roll view.
- To have several (e.g. 3) nested folders levels.
- there are some more, but I can't remember them right now :)

It appeared that I became not only Sonar fan, but also Cakewalk's musical instruments.. ))
I think that the concept behind the rapture and dimension pro (with modulations) is the smartest and the most usable, intuitive and powerful suggestion.
I found zeta+ the best synthesizer of any available. I also like psynII))). I love dropzone for its simplicity and endless possibilities. These instruments are not so "stupid" or "alien" or "strange" or "junk" as all the others (my strange associations))). I was very surprized and happy finding out that all cakewalk's instruments are skinnable ))))

I used tone2 firebird, vanguard, sienth1, blue and many others(up to 15-20 synths and samplers), but now I just have NI battery, rapture, dropzone, zeta+ and psynII =)) These five allow to get endless original electronic stuff which is my need. Love rapture because it is a type of "chameleon" that can be anything from analog synth to distorted drum sampler :)

Well this is all I wanted to say, thanx again to all cakewalk team and wish you to stay on top in future.

Btw my styles of music are rhythm'n'noise and dark electro
2008/04/23 17:55:20
Matt_stevens
I started using Sonar for A level music technology about 4 years ago. Before that I'd played around with cubase a little at a previous school.

Learning to use Sonar was a breeze, especially compared to trying to figure out cubase. Since then I've been using Nuendo at university. It's horrible. I went down the Mac road a couple of years ago, and got a copy of Cubase Studio 4 to go with that. I've recently been dual booting my Macbook, purely so I can use Sonar again (and a couple of programming/electronics applications).

An osX version (however unlikely that may be) would make me a VERY happy person.

Matt.
2008/04/26 14:42:44
ronboy
Well, I'm very much a Logic user but before using logic I used Cakewalk 1.0 when it was dos! Upgraded all the way up to Cakewalk Pro Audio 8. Cakewalk pro audio 8 didn't work for me so I switch to Emagic Logic 4.0 for the PC until Apple bought it. Got Cubase 1.0 and then upgraded to SX 3. I still use Logic Pro 7 on my G4 but I still like to use my PCs. Cubase SX 3 is as far as I'm going to go with Cubase (use on my laptop and G4) because the latest version is so buggy. SX 3 works good but not the greatest on some laptops. Well, I want to stay up - to - date with technology I upgraded my Sonar LE (bundled with a midi controller) to Sonar Home Studio 6 XL. I was so impressed with Sonar LE and Home Studio that I upgraded to Sonar 7 Studio when Cakewalk made me an attractive upgrade offer. I'm not sorry that I upgraded!
2008/04/27 14:06:21
anhinga17
I SWITCHED FROM PRO-TOOLS TO SONAR BECAUSE PRO-TOOLS TAKE`S TO MUCH CPU POWER, I NEED TO USE PRO TOOLS HARDWARE LIKET HE DIGI 003`, PROBLEMS WITH VST PLUG IN`S AND BECAUSE SONAR HAS A BETTER SOUND WHEN RECORDING AND VERY USER FRIENDLY,THERE`S ALOT MORE REASON`S THAT I CAN`T REMEMBER RIGHT NOW
WITH SONAR I CAN CHOOSE MY AUDIO INTERFACE AND RECORD AT HIGHER SAMPLES AND BIT RATE`S, WHICH IS GREAT
2008/04/28 22:07:28
ira_numan
Not unlike Psychobillybob, I'm a relic from the days of the analog tape sessions. (TASCAM Porta-One, recording demos on cassette in hopes of booking the band.) Many years later, I bought a program called Magix MusicMaker 2005 DeLuxe. It's a loop-based "studio" and it got me over my fear of the Personal Computer. Then I discovered that everything I've done with that software is not my property. What a waste. Still looking for a way to record, I went to the Zoom MRS-802 digital eight track recorder and embellished it with the Boss DR-5 drum machine. But with that ever longing to go hi-tech, I received a bootleg copy of cakewalk pro nine from a friend but it wouldn't install. That's how I stumbled on to Sonar 7 Producer on eBay. What sold me was the You Tube video of the V-Vocal. "At last! I'll be able to tolerate my singing," I thought. Upon first run, I was acutely aware that I was in way over my head. Enter Digital Music Doctor's Know-It-All video. I'm still miffed that a search for "Sonar 7 Tutorial Video" didn't link me straight way to the SWA vid on which I just spent yet another thirty dollars on the pursuit of Sonar Education. Well, I'm still impressed with this DAW and hope to be able to maneuver it soon. I have an album sitting around waiting to be put "in the can." Come on Sonar! Baby needs a new pair of shoes!
2008/04/30 05:19:35
21doors
Back about a year and a half ago, Sonar got some recognition. Then ProTool's improved system got noticed, then Radar's improved system, Now Logic's improved system. There is a trend though, its all about the WORKFLOW. People who know this don't waste their time on Forums. More and more advanced users are looking for easier, quicker use of software. The bells and whistles are already here. What everyone needs is a quicker, faster, more immediate and intuitive way of accessing each track and its settings. There are some good ideas out there...

here's 2:
-have a smaller GUI, or allow zooming ALL THE WAY out so that you can see every track at once in the track view, even if there are 100 tracks.

-Have a 'meters' view where 100 track's meters could be viewed, and when you hover (or click) over a meter, that channel appears so you can adjust it's eq, fader, in/out, sends, fx, etc...
2008/05/02 16:01:44
mattila
cake 09 to sonar producer 4 . its good for editing but the midi curve is huge.i have to keep installing synths after reopening the program. even the demos dont seem to have midi assignments.ill eventually figure it out. nice program ill be getting a new 10+10 firewire soon. see how that works. james
2008/05/12 00:30:13
guitmotar
Wow, I never thought it possible, but last week I was the Featured Artist of the Week on XM RADIO (Channel 43, the RADAR ROPORT for unsigned bands). They played three songs and aired the show three times. The online link to the announcement is at: http://www.xmuradarreport.com (just click on "RADAR REPORT" and look on MAY 8, 2008).

All my stuff was recorded in SONAR 6 PE. I think I can write good songs, but I am a very poor engineer, but Sonar makes it so much easier with this software (most of which is still beyond me to understand). I started some of the recordings in CAKEWALK HOMESTUDIO, and then brought them forward and worked on them some more.


All the tunes can be heard at www.cdbaby.com/cd/mattsims.
Plus, I put up two videos on youtube at www.youtube.com/guitmotar

According to CDBABY, I've gotten more hits coming from the SONGS FORUM than any other source. The softwarre and the Forums are great - THANKS!!

Matt Sims
2008/05/12 00:56:37
Susan G
That's excellent, Matt! Congratulations!

-Susan
2008/05/12 09:01:15
garrigus
Hey Matt,

Have you signed up to get your CDs listed over on DigiFreq?

http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/music.asp

Congrats on the airplay!
Scott

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