I have been a  Logic -User since 98   . I found it in the beginning very complex, to work and
record my music on a DAW. Cause of that it took a long time of getting a routine in working like that. It has been a big desaster to me ,as Logic stops there support for Win based systems.From 2003 til 09 I tried a lot other hosts : the workflow in Q-base allways  felt to me like a pain in the stomach, Samplitude, Pro Tools a.s.o. didn`t fit to my intuitiv workflow.
Therefore I used Logic 5.5 till 2009 , when a friend told me:"just  try Sonar." So, since the summer of 09 I´m a Sonar 8.5 Studio User. In the beginning it just needs 2 days  , and since then I never had to use the manual again, soooo intuitiv, great software!!!
I  like  most the session drummer, boost 11, V-vocal  and I still don`t miss anything in the studio version.
 

OK!..I switched from Windows Logic Audio 5.1 to Sonar 8.5 Producer.
I have had used Logic for about six or seven years when I decided to move to another DAW.
Some new VST plugs did not work with Logic but it was not only because of that I switched over.
It had some bugs too and when Logic get sold to Apple it was not updated anymore.
Of course it made me very  very angry when Apple kicked windows user out in the cold.. but anyway.
Then I bought Adobe Audition because of their MIDI and audio...but their MIDI is veeery poor and no updates in 3 years.
Tried Cubase demo and Reaper but was hooked by Sonar. Sonar can handle external MIDI machines better than Logic could ( ver 5.1).
The Cakewalk website have very good videos and information about nearly everything about Sonar and VST plugs.
Well..feels very good when I finally found my new DAW, took me 2 years .
Bye , Mixermuso

Well, I started out with Sonar, or Cakewalk Home Studio, and continually progressed to Sonar 7.  At the same time I was going to audio production school and our platform of coarse was Protools.  I thought since what seemed to be everyone else using Protools I would switch over to it instead.  Long story short, I have bounced around from Protools, to Cubase to Nuendo, and for me and my laptop, I have now gone BACK to Sonar for many reasons.  Ease of use for what I had been use to for so many years anjd the BIG thing, COMPATIBILITY and STABILITY.  I could NEVER get any other DAW to work consistently with what I have.  I was always cringing when booting up any of the other DAWs in fear that it wouldn't perform and half the time it wouldn't.  I was frustrated with having to have certain name brand hardware and USB keys and what not.  I love that I can open my laptop, boot Sonar and mix however I like....headphone, laptop speakers, whatever I want, it works, and works right everytime.  Maybe one day the rest of the word will catch on to Sonar.

I switched from Adobe Auditon 3 to Sonar 8.5 Producer version because I couldnt run EZDrummer in Audition - it doesnt have the MIDI capability...and so I can explore MIDI.

I've been using Vegas 7 for years. I'm trying to transition to CW Producer but I've found it difficult. I've read a lot of praise for the help in these forums but so far my experience is that the longtimers here find my newbie questions annoying. Granted, I came looking for help before and chose to just stick with what I know: Vegas. Now I'm back again and - maybe it's just the general arrogance of musicians, I don't know - I don't feel very welcome here. I had hoped (there's my problem perhaps) that someone would tell me how to utilize Sonar's drum loops. I'm just used to bringing up a loop and laying down guitars and vocals over it. Instead, they showed me where to go get an education on Sonar. Perhaps there aren't any easy answers to utilizing Sonar. I'm still hoping to find someone who relates to the transition I'm trying to make who will share with me some tips to just get started. I'm not asking for someone to do it for me. I just want to know how to utilize Session Drummer 3's drum loops for starters. Perhaps I should apologize in advance, since my inquiries so far have all turned into that, so far.
 
Hoping to become a happy Sonar user one day...

doncobb,

Probably not the right forum for your post but I too found a lot of things difficult in Sonar but have found nothing but great help and assistance for every question I've had.

In that spirit here's a great site to learn all there is to know about Session Drummer 3 and using its drum loops. Hopefully that's not the same place others have sent you for 'an education on Sonar' but it sounds to me like you need 'an education on Sonar.' Trust me if you spend the time to go through that master class on Session Drummer 3 you'll be well on your way to understanding Sonar and can apply that knowledge to the entire program.

http://cakewalk.com/CakeT...m-Production-Episode-1

I guarantee you'll know a ton more about Sonar if you follow that tutorial.

There's also a 'Get Started' forum where the tone is very beginner oriented and people are very helpful there. Link below.

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tt.aspx?forumid=56

Hello.

Fairly long time Cubase user here; now ex-user. My main reasons for switching are:

1. Customer Support. And by support I mean the whole nine yards. To have developers/team members actively participate in these forum threads is invaluable. And while I'm on the subject, they (you guys if you're reading this) seem to have a passion for the product you produce and a sincere desire for your customer's success and enjoyment. This type of personal atmosphere is rare and refreshing. This is not to mention the phone support I received just a day after purchasing Sonar and the many video tutorials available. I got zero support from Cubase over the years.

2. Bang for your buck. I mean really. The program options and plugins that are included with Sonar are top notch and are far and above those offered by any other host program. I'm still amazed at what you get for your money.

These two are the big reasons and I'm sure as I grow with Sonar, and learn, there will be many, many more.

Extremely happy Sonar user here. Thanks for a great product.
 

HumbleNoise


doncobb,

Probably not the right forum for your post but I too found a lot of things difficult in Sonar but have found nothing but great help and assistance for every question I've had.

In that spirit here's a great site to learn all there is to know about Session Drummer 3 and using its drum loops. Hopefully that's not the same place others have sent you for 'an education on Sonar' but it sounds to me like you need 'an education on Sonar.' Trust me if you spend the time to go through that master class on Session Drummer 3 you'll be well on your way to understanding Sonar and can apply that knowledge to the entire program.

http://cakewalk.com/CakeT...m-Production-Episode-1

I guarantee you'll know a ton more about Sonar if you follow that tutorial.

There's also a 'Get Started' forum where the tone is very beginner oriented and people are very helpful there. Link below.

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tt.aspx?forumid=56

Thank you, Larry. I look forward to getting acquainted with Sonar. I'm convinced it will meet my needs and then some. I've gone through the SD3 master class videos. I've learned a lot. I've created a custom loop from scratch for my first Sonar recording, and that's progress. I cannot, however, get the loop to play in Sonar. I followed the instructions in creating it and found it on track 19 like it said I would. I grabbed it (an 8 beat loop) and dragged it out to extend it for 32 beats but I get no sound when I play it in Sonar. I can hear it in the Step Sequencer where I created it, but I get no sound in Sonar. I've been poking around trying to figure out why it's muted, and I'll keep digging around to find out what the problem is. Thanks for your encouragement. I'll go check out the vids for those links you posted.


Thanks, Larry.


Don

Got Sonar with an interface I bought. Way easier than the Ableton I was using, and Fruity Loops gave me a headache. Upgraded to HS6, then HS6XL, then jumped to 8.5 Studio. If I can get the bugs worked out of using Sound Forge Pro 10c as my audio editor in 64 bit, I'll be a happy camper!

Ive been meening to post in this thread for around 6 months now that would be about the time I moved over to Sonar Producer 8.5.3

Ok so my story is like this

I had been in and out of studios for years doing sessions for people on the drums etc

I always had a passion for what was going on in the control room when I was druming so I used to ask once I had finished my takes if anyone would mind if I hung around and watched most of the guys I worked with were all cool about it so I got to watch a lot of different guys work in a lot of different ways and my passion for it got bigger and bigger

Every studio I was in was always ProTools Logic or Cuebase I had never been in a studio that was useing Sonar ( I am in scotland)

So I decided one day It was about time I got my finger out and started to learn to do some home recording this would be about a year ago now.

I bought a project mix and it arived broken this happend 3 times 3 different units all buggerd!!!! I was planing to use it with a laptop I had to get my self started.

I held back on geting another one and saved a bit more took all the money I had and bought a Digi 003 with Protools 8 and the Music production tool kit bought a bunch of plugins etc
I then built my Daw a dual core 4 gb of ram 2 500Gb hard drives at 72000rpm 32mb cach

With all this I thought I was good to go

I had nothign but problems I had constant crashes spent more time trying to fix things that recording and it was costing a bomb phoneing tec support who I have to say ARE THE WORST TEC SUPPORT TO DEAL WITH EVER ! I was told parts of my daw were not supported so they couldnt help me with it.....

I was so frustrated as all I wanted to do was record and get on with makeing music. I then gave the computer to a family memmber and went out abd spent £1500 on a computer from a well known Daw builder in the Uk I wont give there name on here as I feel that its un fair.

So my new computer arrived with windows 7 64 on it 12 gb ram etc etc awesoime I thoguht I have one kick ass rig here adn to top it off they have configured it to work with protools

I was wrong I didnt know that protools was not windows 7 reay let alone not 64 bit so it was all a waste I had even more problems than i was haveing with the couplture I had before so I sent it back to get fixed I got it back with vista and then there was more problems
Protools wasnt happy with this that and the next thing

So months of sending the computer up and down from scotland to england and them saying they didnt knwo what the problem was but there was probblems they could see they sent it back yet again and to my luck it was working for about 1 week then the same problems started not enough power etc to do what I was needing etc the company even told me it was not down to a user error as I was starting to think it was all my fault.

So I had Bought all of this protools gear and the Daw from the one shop they contacted me and said they would offer em a full refund on everything and I took it and said a big F U to ProTools

There Tec support as I said Suckes and there Forum members are not exactly the most helpfull of folk

I Started looking about at other programs logic was out of the question because I hate macs

I was never a big fan of what I had seen qith cuebase

Luckly I found out a friend of mine was useing Sonar 8.5 producer so I got a great demo from him and then I went to a store that had not long opend in Glasgow called GG Digital If you are ever in glasgow you have to go its like being a kid walking in to a toy shop :D

My friend John works there in there Roland planet and he gave me a great demo on the VS700 and from that momment I knew that Sonar and the VS700 system was for me

The following week I orderd it all got it home and had no computer to run it on since I had spent al my cash on the Vs700 so I had one whole month off loking at it and not useing it.

I finaly got the money together bought all my components and built the computer that you see in my sig it came to £800 thats a saveing of £700 compared to what I spent on the last one that got sent back.

With everything installed it was plug n play I had never been happyer

I had problems adjusting to useing sonar from protools since its so different but I am learning every day.

The guys on this Forum are all the nicest of folk and I cant thank you all enough compared to the guys at the protools forum them are just not interested or at least that was my feeling.

I have contacted tec support a couple of times with trying to fix audio dropouts and things like that and one thing I can tell you is Cake Walk Tec support are the BEST I have ever dealt with they make you feel like they want to help and give you all the time you need they really listen to you! What more can we ask for !

I cant thank Cake walks tec support team enough! Ryan Munnis Is the man!

Moveing to Sonar was the best move for me and any one who has seen my set up has since decided that they want to use Sonar aswell

Cakewalk and Roland together are awesome and I know I am going to be very happy here for as long as I am recording

Thanks Roland and Cakewalk!

Norrie