ORIGINAL: budweiser

But i had to go back to cubase (4) because of stability prolems and multiple crashes. I don't know for v vocal, but, for example, i still have very strange things with vst efx automation or the mute tool when enabling the loop mode. And crashes for this or that.

Hey budweiser!

How's Cubase 4 working? I know many people have had sooooo many problems and all. I'm building a new daw soon using the Intel Desktop Board D975XBX2 and the Core 2 Quad Q6600 processor. Currently running SX 3.1 (last version). I crossgraded to Samplitude Pro 9, but use it for mastering right now. Looking into Sonar 6 as a stable alternative.

Any insight would be great!

SEA

I have to be considered more in the camp of switching back.

I started with Cakewalk when it was Purple and Black and worked in DOS on my 286 or something like that. Maybe it was a 386 by then. I stayed with every upgrade until Sonar 1. I was around for Sound Blobs !!!! I actually liked Pro Audio 9.

Something didnt sit well with me and Sonar 1. Then as VSTs started coming out, I was swayed by the German company. I did VST 5.1, SX1, 2 and 3. I had so many stability problems that I don't think I actually recorded, I just upgraded graphics cards, convertors, PCs... It was a total inspiration killer. When 3 came out and still made my PC crash and I could not get help from tech support (because it doesnt exist), i said "I don't like you and I don't like your horse" (an old texas term that involves pointing but not with the index finger).

I came back at the end of Sonar 3 and upgraded to 4 very shortly there after. Maybe I am off on the numbers. Its OK. I am getting old.

To me there were two main things:
Stability (which I never achieved with Stein)
Support (which I never achieved with Stein)

Also, I found that at the time, I didn't really care that much for the crop of VSTs out. I had a ton of MIDI gear (still do including Modcan Modular (not really MIDI), Synthi AKS (not MIDI either) Prophet 5/10/VS, 2600, Memorymoog, Elka Synthex, OB Xpander, Roland MKS80...)

I can't say that now about VSTs. I have a couple of show-stoppers. But PC technology has advanced to the point that I can run things that sound stellar.

Sonar is almost rock solid for me. The places where it isnt is from the plug in devlopers (arturia being one that still causes me issues).

Hey space_cowboy!

I see you have a Quad core!

How is Sonar 6 running on it? Is it using all 4 cores?

SEA

OP is did you switch to sonar tell us your story!!!

sonar is really great...i switched from nuendo and cubase to Sonar 4 and now 6 producer editons...the sound quality is better I can use all my synths including NI b4 organ... and its not diffiecult one u get used to it...
thanks Cakewalk

When I first started using music software I was using four programs, each for different reasons. I was using Reason for it's effects and the flexibility of the REX file format, Fruity Loops because of its easy to use step generator, Recycle to create REX files from song parts I'd compose, and Acid Music Studio to compile everything.

In the beginning I was able to work around each program's short comings easily. However, as time went on I started working with vocals more often and the only program that allows you to use them is Acid. Adjusting my files to fit the tempo of the vocal track became increasingly difficult. When I exporting parts of songs to compile in Acid, I noticed the program had given each part its own tempo, and it took much longer to correct. It had gotten to the point where I was spending more time editing than creating. That's when I decided it was time for something new.

After a bit of searching, I landed on Sonar. I was orginally going to buy Pro Tools, but it was much too expensive and required some hardware as well as some plugins before you could begin to use it. Being in college and having very little space work with, price and space were of the uttmost importance. I'd used Sonar 2 briefly a long time ago, so it only took a couple reviews and word of mouth to get to buy the program

hello, i am currently evaluating sonar 6, and i am seriously considering the switch from cubase 4 to it. i have been using the latter, along with tracktion, for quite some time, but i had actually started in the DOS days with cakewalk for DOS, which i adored. when sonar came out, i was first quite disappointed, i must say... thus switched to cubase and logic back then, later also to tracktion.
best regards and congratulations for your development efforts and success,
marco (switzerland)
ps i would still use cakepro for DOS for MIDI recording, if i could with the current equipment, because i LOVED the measures view and the overall UI speed!

I never switched! I started with a MIDI-only version of Cakewalk back in ~1993. I recall my excitment when "Pro Audio" version was released that had the ability to record/playback .wav!! Then the notion of plug-in support vs. built-in FX! Pro Audio V9, then - lo - SONAR!!

It's been a ride great boys. Keep it up!

Im thinking to switch to sonar after seeing the incredible support they have for all your users, specially the users of Cakewalk Music Creator. If you care about patch the bugs of your more cheap product and assist their users, how incredible will be to be an user of the more expensive one.

I can understand that the UK's counterparts have made that switch but the dominant force is here in the UK and that presently and still is Cubase. I am just wondering how many of you who are writing in are from the U.K. or is it mostly Americans.