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2013/08/09 09:48:50
scook
jb101
The only issue I had with them was that the input gain knob doesn't seem to work. 

For a SIT, the "Gain" knob is actual the velocity offset same as a MIDI track.
2013/08/09 09:50:36
MondoArt
Yes, most soft synths are pretty hot - I usually turn the fader down to -6 or -12 to start with.
2013/08/09 09:54:25
jb101
MondoArt
Yes, most soft synths are pretty hot - I usually turn the fader down to -6 or -12 to start with.


Problem with turning the fader down is that the signal is still hot going through the ProChannel. Using the input gain knob stops this.

Also, the faders are "more sensitive" (sorry, can't think of a better way of describing it) nearer to zero.
2013/08/09 10:05:14
scook
jb101
MondoArt
Yes, most soft synths are pretty hot - I usually turn the fader down to -6 or -12 to start with.


Problem with turning the fader down is that the signal is still hot going through the ProChannel. Using the input gain knob stops this.

Also, the faders are "more sensitive" (sorry, can't think of a better way of describing it) nearer to zero.

If you want to adjust the audio input gain, you need to temporarily split the SIT to access to the audio track input gain adjustment.
2013/08/09 10:39:48
sharke
Most soft synths have a master output control though right? That's always the first thing I turn down. Might as well cool the signal right at the source. 
2013/08/09 14:03:35
stevec
sharke
Most soft synths have a master output control though right? That's always the first thing I turn down. Might as well cool the signal right at the source. 




Yup, that's what I do as well.
 
2013/08/09 18:26:58
jb101
stevec
sharke
Most soft synths have a master output control though right? That's always the first thing I turn down. Might as well cool the signal right at the source. 




Yup, that's what I do as well.
 



Not all, sadly.  EZdrummer doesn't, I'm pretty sure.  Does Dim Pro?  Not at my DAW at moment.
2013/08/09 23:36:38
Paul P
jb101
Not all, sadly.  EZdrummer doesn't, I'm pretty sure.  Does Dim Pro?  Not at my DAW at moment.



DimPro doesn't.  Rapture, Z3ta+2 and SD3 do.
 
2013/08/09 23:39:00
sharke
Not including a master output control on a VSTi is just pure insanity! 
2013/08/10 02:22:58
brundlefly
Paul P
jb101
Not all [softs synths have a master output control], sadly.  EZdrummer doesn't, I'm pretty sure.  Does Dim Pro?  Not at my DAW at moment.



DimPro doesn't.  Rapture, Z3ta+2 and SD3 do.
 

 
Dim Pro doesn't have a widget for Master Volume, but it responds to MIDI Volume (CC7), which is what the fader in the MIDI tab of a SIT's Inspector sends  - same result. I'd imagine EZDrummer does, too.
 
My main complaint about SITs is that the Input and Gain on the Audio tab are MIDI Input and Velocity Offset just as they are on the MIDI tab. They should be the corresponding audio controls. I filed this as a Bug some time back, but the Bakers replied that it's working as designed. 
 
Regarding the cloning of a SIT, it's really never occurred to me to try it. In my view, it totally defeats the purpose of a SIT, and shouldn't even be allowed. There's no way to implement it that doesn't introduce some logical conundrum or yield results that will seem unintuitive to some users.
 
 
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