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  • *WARNING* Incoming Windows 10 Update (p.5)
2017/12/02 00:44:55
kitekrazy1
bitflipper
Only one minor annoyance noticed...
 
This last update left me temporarily sound-less after switching my default audio device to the long-disabled Realtek interface. Why on earth it would decide to re-enable a device just to mess with me is a mystery. Maybe somebody at MS read my posts saying not to worry, Windows won't break SONAR and decided "yeh, we'll see about that!".
 
This on the heels of last week's update, which switched my default to the built-in speakers of my HDMI-connected monitor. 
 




Mine was the opposite.  My UR22 became the Windows default device.  Also when I open a DAW the UR22 would install and hang. 
2017/12/02 02:11:22
GregRband
This thread has reminded me that everyone has own way of seeing things.....
I would never stop getting updates on a Windows machine unless it was offline all the time, a Mac, or only online for quick file downloads (and that’s even a huge risk in today’s world...file corruptions and attached server worms, etc).
Most of today’s software devs have future OS updates well in advance and have already updated programs and drivers to make adjustments. To me, at least, if a software company is that far behind, and not PreDev’g it’s programs, “there’s your sign”. But that’s my opinion.
Additional note, in all the companies I’ve decided to spend money on, most if not all either have it done in advance, warn of support issues before update released to catch issues and then soon update. Again, to me, a bad sign is when a product either doesn’t support an OS update due to not pre testing, may not have resources to do so, or plain don’t care to invest the time to keep product up to date..... all within reasonable time. For me, I’d say a month after release (considering they could have been making changes for months beforehand). Anything after that makes me look sideways.
My 2cents for what it’s worth.
2017/12/02 02:33:15
tenfoot
TemplesGateStudio
Since all the other "alternatives" for Sonar have Windoze or Mac versions.. It might be a good time to consider jumping to Mac OS.

I'm tired of this Microsoft bs.

You might want to have a look at the Mac forums when they do an OS update. They have their own bs to deal with.  It's just more expensive s*** :)
2017/12/02 02:51:45
GregRband
tenfoot
TemplesGateStudio
Since all the other "alternatives" for Sonar have Windoze or Mac versions.. It might be a good time to consider jumping to Mac OS.

I'm tired of this Microsoft bs.

You might want to have a look at the Mac forums when they do an OS update. They have their own bs to deal with.  It's just more expensive s*** :)


I hear ya, guess that is case for some. I’ve noticed that the newer quad core Mac’s seem to have more issues for some reason, weird! In my own experience, I added an old 2008 iMac (Intel duo core) to my windows home studio about 3 years ago, have upgraded the OS 2 times, and have installed all updates along the way....not much of any issues here, thing is a tank apparently! I’ve had way more problems with iPad iOS updates myself. Guess I’m lucky. As for Windows, had more compliance issues than I’d like when moving over to Win 10, but that has settled nicely now (except for the newest fall creators update and now my ASIO doesn’t like my interface). In my own windows experience overall, they are damn fussy, vulnerable to file errors, and viruses seem to be living in them almost from day one , but they work, cost WAY LESS, and win 10 is major improvement to me! Still not a rock solid machine tho.... at least here.... but I can’t afford crazy $$$ machines either, so there is that aspect.
I like having both actually. Best of both worlds kind of.... in a budget kind of way, lol
2017/12/02 03:21:54
Boomboom24
Sonar Platinum producer,  Dell Studio xps 9100, intel 1-7 cpu 930  2.80 GHz 2800 Mhz, bios A04 10-21-2010, video Nvidia Geforce GTX 970, memory 12 GB,  Fireface 800 and Behringer Ultragain pro 8 digital,
I received automatically Windows 10 updates on the 15th of Nov. next day--We had a recording session to do overdubs, vocals, and guitar intro on songs. We had 15 tracks recorded with NO issues Nov. 3.
On Nov. 16th We got vocals on one song and guitar intro on another. Then getting ready to record more vocals, Sonar froze , mouse did nothing, enter key did nothing, up on tool bar, menu stating which song (Not responding) was up there, lower right corner blue screen "Audio dropout"  (Audio engine dropout), clicked a few times the mouse-- The sonar screen went GREY with slight background visible of sonar program tracks screen. Rebooted pc, same scenario, attempted to record again, froze up, blue small screen audio dropout, locked up, ,,no mouse or keyboard actions work.
Wednesday 11-29-2017 same scenario again. Had to scrub session again. Anyone out there having issues similar???? We want to get our songs done and have a nice finished product.
2017/12/02 13:38:35
mudgel
After informing my self on the state of the Fall Creators update, 2 weeks ago I downloaded the iso for my laptop and installed it..after 2 weeks of running smoothly I decided to install it on my DAW where it is also running fine, though I did have to go into Sonar and select my ASIO driver again.

Why oh why do people get so negative?
2017/12/02 13:55:16
Kamikaze
Because the that update interfered with the UWP driver cmpatability and now bluetooth may not work fr some devices (mine included). The bakers were working n a solution and the rug was pulled. 
 
It messes up XLN, and changes settings that I set.
 
They are a pain in the .........
2017/12/02 14:12:11
guitarwiz1
mudgel
 I did have to go into Sonar and select my ASIO driver again.

Why oh why do people get so negative?



I didn't have an option to re-select my ASIO drivers because they were removed from my system completely.
I'm still going through and finding things that were added and settings that were changed.
 
If they want to update their O.S...fine. Give me an option to not install stuff I don't want or need. Most of all "DO NOT!!!" change my settings or delete stuff I do.
2017/12/02 15:13:26
AllanH
I took the 1709 Feature update two weeks ago when it became available. The "final" Sonar works just fine for me and I've used it extensively.
2017/12/02 15:37:00
Manolo
John T
Yeah, the Fall Creators Update hoofed out my v700 driver. Which is odd, given that the other Creators update earlier in the year didn't.

 
I have to resintall drivers of the VS-700C at each big update (1511, 1607, 1703 and 1709) excepted but I'm not sure one of the middle (1607 or 1703).
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