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  • *WARNING* Incoming Windows 10 Update (p.6)
2017/12/02 17:25:13
jadonx
Here is a reply from XLN which may be of interest.....
 
 
Hi John

Thanks for getting in touch with your concerns for our products running inside Sonar. The good news is that you can also run the Online Installer in Compatibility mode should the need arise and you will be still able to use AD2 inside Sonar after a future Win 10 update. 

We are considering  the implications of Gibson's decision to drop support for Sonar and are considering several options. however nothing is, of yet, decided upon and probably won't be until after Christmas. 

Don't hesitate to get back to me if you need any further assistance.
 

Wishing you all the very best.
 


Best regards,
Nick Hutton
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XLN Audio - Support
2017/12/02 18:02:02
tlw
TemplesGateStudio
Since all the other "alternatives" for Sonar have Windoze or Mac versions.. It might be a good time to consider jumping to Mac OS.

I'm tired of this Microsoft bs.


That’s pretty much what I thought, having been using Macs in parallel with PC for a while. Having built PCs and admin’d Windows from 3.11 onwards, finding Win10 switiching stuff on I’d switched off and messing around with drivers was the final straw.

Just too much hassle.
2017/12/02 18:17:51
mettelus
SiberianKhatru59
Yet again I'm glad I kept going on Windows 7.


+1, spending 50% of one's time at a DAW on computer maintenance gets old the first go round. If Win10 hadn't gotten pushed as forcefully as it did I might have actually tried it, but thankful in hindsight that I didn't.
2017/12/02 20:21:50
jadonx
I don't know I like windows 10(coming from Vista),but were not some of the problems caused by rushed Sonar monthly updates.
2017/12/02 22:58:18
mkerl
Today I installed some Updates for my PC, latest Win 10 Update , latest cakewalk (2017/10), and other stuff (drivers) - I run Intel i5, AMD Graphics, 1TB HDD, 256 MB ssd, Quadcapture, Sonar PLat . . . NoProblems, machine is running fast, maybe a bit faster, ASIO drivers as always, It's a joy to work with, I'm looking forward to Sonar 2017/11 (just kidding .....). Possible Problems couldt appear trough different sources - network drivers, Graphics, even drivers for Harddrive controller . . . Win 10 Update will not kill ASIO Drivers by itself, mostly it's a driver conflict with other hardware components. . . . 
2017/12/02 23:13:51
msmcleod
There's a fair amount of panic in this thread about updates breaking Sonar.
 
For what it's worth, I've got a Windows 7 32 bit PC with every version of Sonar/Cakewalk going back to Pro Audio 9.
 
Every single one of them works perfectly, regardless of updates. 
 
Yes, updates might break some ASIO drivers; it might break some plugins; but you'd have that issue no matter what DAW you were using.
 
I've done a fresh Windows 7 install as a backup (just in case), but I'm not going to stop doing Windows 10 updates in the meantime.
 
Before an update, Windows creates a restore point. If an update really does break Sonar for good - just go to system restore and roll it back. Microsoft normally sorts these issues out pretty quickly and will issue a new update in time.
 
Mark.
2017/12/02 23:20:00
AT
I bought an new iPad instead of a new Mac or Windows machine.  Not for DAW work (yet) but good for playing synths. 
2017/12/02 23:33:31
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jadonx
 
I don't know I like windows 10(coming from Vista),but were not some of the problems caused by rushed Sonar monthly updates.




You don't come around here much do you
 
Don't be silly, no problems are ever caused by SONAR, it's always Windows updates, 3rd party plugins, pilot error, or your PC sucks, SONAR does not and never has had issues. SONAR, like Cakewalk descended down from heaven as a gift from GOD to the audio world, Cakewalk do not tell lies, mislead or hold anything back from people, they are, as is SONAR, free from defect and without guile. They are always 100% truthful, they don't just tell you what they want you to hear, or what they think you want to hear, and both they and SONAR are unlike any other software or company on the planet. All other software Companies will only tell you what they want you to hear, but not Cakewalk, all other software companies are full of deceit and deception, but not Cakewalk, there is only 1 true and noble company, Cakewalk.  Due to being a direct gift from GOD they are on another plane entirely. Even now, after recent events the delusion continues, the deluded souls believe what they are being fed. It's truly something to behold
2017/12/03 00:23:44
mkerl
 
jadonx

 SONAR, like Cakewalk descended down from heaven as a gift from GOD to the audio world,
 



without being this kind of religious fanatic dumb, Sonar is just a cool piece of software and the guys at cakewalk just did a good job.
2017/12/03 01:38:04
GotMetalBoy
Fabio Rubato
Jesse G
Turn off your Windows 10 updates.   I haven't updated my Windows 10 OS in a long time.  After the first Windows 10 update my Addictive Drums 2 didn't work any longer.  After I fixed that problem, I blocked Windows 10 updates and never had another problem.  


Hey, how do you turn them off. I've deferred the updates, but I don't know how to actually stop them?




Here's a quick file you can create that will disable or enable Windows update, just in case you want to turn it back on and it works on Windows 7 and newer. You will need to have administrator access, which you most likely already have or you would have issues installing SONAR.
 
* Open Notepad and copy paste the code below into it
* In the upper left click File > Save As
* In the lower left of the Save As window, change the Save as type menu to All Files
* Name the file: Windows Update Disable or Enable.bat
* Select the location you want to save the file and make sure the file name is still: Windows Update Disable or Enable.bat
* In the lower right click Save
* To run the file right click on it and select Run as administrator
** If you forget to run the file as admin, you may get a prompt window that will do it for you
** If you get a login window, that means you don't have administrator access
* There will be a menu where you can select to Disable or Enable Windows Update or Exit without making any changes
 

 
 
 
TITLE *** Disable or Enable Windows Update ***
@ECHO OFF
CLS
COLOR F0

:MAXIMIZE
IF NOT "%1" == "max" START /MAX CMD /C %0 max & EXIT /B
GOTO CheckPrivileges

REM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

:CheckPrivileges
NET FILE >NUL 2>&1
IF '%ERRORLEVEL%' == '0' ( GOTO LBL00_Menu ) ELSE ( GOTO PromptUAC )

:PromptUAC
CLS
COLOR 0C
IF '%1'=='ELEV' (SHIFT & GOTO LBL00_Menu)
ECHO.
ECHO *******************************************************************************
ECHO *
ECHO * Press the spacebar to invoke UAC for Admin Privileges and
ECHO *
ECHO * Click YES when prompted
ECHO *
ECHO *
ECHO *
ECHO *
ECHO * If you get a login prompt, you don't have Admin Privileges.
ECHO *
ECHO * Click No, to Close this program
ECHO *
ECHO *******************************************************************************
ECHO.
PAUSE >NUL 2>&1

:OpenAsAdmin
SETLOCAL DisableDelayedExpansion
SET "batchPath=%~0"
SETLOCAL EnableDelayedExpansion
ECHO Set UAC = CreateObject^("Shell.Application"^) > "%TEMP%\OK_To_Delete.vbs"
ECHO UAC.ShellExecute "!batchPath!", "ELEV", "", "runas", 1 >> "%TEMP%\OK_To_Delete.vbs"
"%TEMP%\OK_To_Delete.vbs"
IF EXIST "%TEMP%\OK_To_Delete.vbs" DEL "%TEMP%\OK_To_Delete.vbs"
EXIT /B

REM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

:LBL00_Menu
CLS
COLOR F0
ECHO.
ECHO *******************************************************************************
ECHO ** This program will Disable or Enable Windows Update **
ECHO *******************************************************************************
ECHO * Please make a selection from the menu below and press ENTER:
ECHO * 1. Disable Windows Update
ECHO * 2. Enable Windows Update
ECHO * 99. Don't make any changes and Exit
ECHO *******************************************************************************
ECHO *

:LBL00_Menu_Prompt
SetLocal DisableDelayedExpansion
SetLocal EnableDelayedExpansion
SET "_LBL00_MENU_PROMPT="
SET /P "_LBL00_MENU_PROMPT=* Type your selection number and press ENTER: "

IF /I !_LBL00_MENU_PROMPT!==1 GOTO LBL01_WU_DISABLE
IF /I !_LBL00_MENU_PROMPT!==2 GOTO LBL02_WU_ENABLE
IF /I !_LBL00_MENU_PROMPT!==99 EXIT
IF /I !_LBL00_MENU_PROMPT!==EXIT EXIT

:LBL00_Menu_Prompt_Not_Valid
CLS
COLOR 0C
ECHO.
ECHO -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ECHO -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ECHO "!_LBL00_MENU_PROMPT!" is not a valid selection, Please try again.
ECHO -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ECHO -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TIMEOUT /T 2 >NUL 2>&1
COLOR F0
CALL :LBL00_Menu
EXIT /B

REM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

:LBL01_WU_DISABLE
CLS
TITLE *** Disable Windows Update ***
COLOR F0
ECHO.
ECHO *******************************************************************************
ECHO * Disabling Services
ECHO *******************************************************************************
ECHO.

SC CONFIG wuauserv START= disabled >NUL 2>&1

ECHO.
ECHO *******************************************************************************
ECHO * Stopping Services
ECHO *******************************************************************************
ECHO.

NET STOP wuauserv /Y

ECHO.
ECHO *******************************************************************************
ECHO * Press any key to return to the main Menu
ECHO *******************************************************************************
ECHO.

PAUSE >NUL 2>&1
GOTO LBL00_Menu

REM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

:LBL02_WU_ENABLE

CLS
TITLE *** Enable Windows Update ***
COLOR F0
ECHO.
ECHO *******************************************************************************
ECHO * Setting Services startup type back to defaults
ECHO *******************************************************************************
ECHO.

SC CONFIG wuauserv START= delayed-auto >NUL 2>&1

ECHO.
ECHO *******************************************************************************
ECHO * Starting Services
ECHO *******************************************************************************
ECHO.

NET START wuauserv /Y

ECHO.
ECHO *******************************************************************************
ECHO * Press any key to return to the main Menu
ECHO *******************************************************************************
ECHO.

PAUSE >NUL 2>&1
GOTO LBL00_Menu

REM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
 
 

 
 
 
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