@jb101
 
Utter Bunkem might just be my next band's name.  BRILLIANT.
 
Bob Bone
 

like I said, im in 435 all the time.

chuckebaby

jb101
This is ridiculous.  These theories are propositioned by people who must have a fundamental lack of understanding of the physics of sound.
 
The idea that tuning A to 435 would make your voice or instrument sound better is ridiculous.  It's like a tenth of a tone, or something.  How could your voice be better in that range, Charlie?  I mean, really..  It's preposterous.
 
Utter bunkum.. 

 
 
tuning to different pitches is the oldest trick in the book to find a singers sweet spot.
if your not aware of this method, your missing something....a singer.
and possibly living under a rock where there's no articles on pitch manipulation.
 
this has been done on countless recordings from "Back in the saddle " by Aerosmith to "man in the box" by AIC.
The Smashing Pumpkins, Black Sabbath, Metallica, Guns and Roses, Van Halen, Thin Lizzy.
all of which at one time or another have tuned to A-435.
 
so im guessing all these bands are have no clue what they're talking about ?
but you do.
 
 
so JB101, what you call a " tenth of a tone, or something "...(thanks for the laugh)....us musicians call a "half step".
or Eb tuning.
can be a significant change to increase a singers upper range.
 
 
but as far as this 432 thing... like I said in my previous post...  "snake oil".
 
 
 
 

Where to start..
 
What we Europeans call a semitone, Americans call a half step, no problem there.
 
Reference pitch A = 440 Htz.  Therefore G# = 415.3Htz, and A# = 466.16Htz. So, tuning your reference pitch to A = 435 is approximately a tenth of a tone (or tenth of a full step), not a half step.
 
Tuning down a semitone ( half step) gives a reference pitch of 415.3, not 435, i.e. you are tuning your guitar to e flat.
 
Those bands understood that.  You did not, obviously.
 
Geez..

robert_e_bone
@jb101 Utter Bunkem might just be my next band's name.  BRILLIANT. Bob Bone 

:-)

I once recorded a vocal at 432, but Melodyne fixed it.

Well it looks like this post turned into a big laugh, but seriously listen to the side-by-side in this video.  There is a difference in FEEL, which every musician should think about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74JzBgm9Mz4

chuckebaby
 
tuning to different pitches is the oldest trick in the book to find a singers sweet spot.
if your not aware of this method, your missing something....a singer.
and possibly living under a rock where there's no articles on pitch manipulation.
 
so JB101, what you call a " tenth of a tone, or something "...(thanks for the laugh)....us musicians call a "half step".
or Eb tuning.
can be a significant change to increase a singers upper range.
 
 
but as far as this 432 thing... like I said in my previous post...  "snake oil".
 

I have read many articles about tuning systems/ temperament (or pitch manipulation, as you wrongly call it), in fact a sizable part of my thesis was on this subject.
 
"We musicians" call tuning down a semitone (or half step) tuning to E flat (77.78Htz) on a guitar, so A= G# (415.3).
 
"We musicians" also understand that you have not changed the reference pitch, but when you play an "E Shape" chord on your guitar in the first position, the resulting chord is actually E flat, and so on.
 
If you truly are an Assistant Engineer, as your profile claims, you need to ask someone at the studio you work for to explain about pitches.  Perhaps they have a chart showing the notes and their relevant frequencies.
 
Until you understand these, then EQing, amongst other things, will be very hit and miss, not to mention the fact that you'll be out of tune with everybody else.

 
You should pick an example where 432 version doesn't sound so horrible if you plan on trying to convince any one that it sounds better.
 
The guitar isn't intonated for the 432 tuning and that's why the chords sound so sour and out of place.
 
It just sort of sucks and it's different.
 
Why not provide an example with a synth or piano where both examples are actually tuned to something like an even tempered scale.
 
The guy that prepared that video sample on a fretted instrument doesn't know how fretted instruments work... so you probably shouldn't assume he can teach you much about sound.
 
If you go to the trouble of preparing a comparison of properly tuned instruments voiced to 2 different A references then you'll have something to appreciate and it will be easier to enjoy the idea that a different A tuning reference may suit some material nicely.
 
 
best regards,
mike
 
 

aglewis723
Well it looks like this post turned into a big laugh, but seriously listen to the side-by-side in this video.  There is a difference in FEEL, which every musician should think about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74JzBgm9Mz4

Most of the soft synths I use have master tuning options.
 
At one time, I thought European musicians and symphonies tuned to a different standard (and lower frequency) than A-440 but perhaps electronics have encouraged standardization.
 
 

bitflipper
I once recorded a vocal at 432, but Melodyne fixed it.

Hey... Hey!  (in my best Joe Pesci voice)