• SONAR
  • Frustrated, Explanation and apology below. (p.4)
2013/07/29 17:16:45
wcedgar
This is one strange bunch of fellows.  
Don, I gave you   double ya sea at double ya sea edgar  dot com (typed address didn't show up on the page)  which is my address and I get mail here every day. 
I got really frustrated, then the one guy tells me my system won't work on Sonar but the Cakewalk website says it supports Windows 8 32 & 64 bit.
I ordered the 64 bit version to be able to add the SDRAM I need to be able to use the system.  
I think from the inexperienced standpoint that you guys assume a lot of things and therefore everything you say is way far over my head sometimes.  
I guess it would probably be like one of you coming to the Steel Guitar Forum that was a new player and feeling overwhelmed but on this side of the coin I would have been glad to talk a new person through learning the instrument and have many times over the years. Remember, not everyone in the music biz is a software engineer.  .
I am sorry I ruffled a few feathers, Don, I'm a bad waiter and after I didn't hear from you the next three days I really got frustrated.  And by the way buddy, I don't text.  I use my phone for a phone to make calls with so no BOGUS email and the phone number is good 620-755-3432.
See ya
2013/07/29 17:29:18
John
Well we are here and listening.  We may not be able to help but we do have a very good track record. If you give us a second chance who knows it may prove useful to you. 
 
One thing to keep in mind and I do think you already know this, this is a peer to peer forum. We are users just like you. What we have to offer is the collectivize wisdom of this forum. That can be almost magical.
 
Though we all started off on the wrong foot there is no need to stay that way. 
 
Let us know what it going wrong or what is troublesome and I know we can sort it out.
2013/07/29 17:31:33
wcedgar
I appreciate it, 
It looks like I picked the wrong week to stop
drinkin
smokin
taking amphetamines 
 
2013/07/29 17:37:35
John
LOL I know how you feel. Now getting down to business what is the problem?  
2013/07/29 17:42:26
The Maillard Reaction
Stick with it man! You are gonna love Sonar.
 
It works great with Kontakt and the Orange Tree Lap Steel Guitar samples
 
Good Luck!
 
 
 
regards,
mike
2013/07/29 17:45:53
wcedgar
I did buy the SWR Mix Clinic from Cakewalk or whatever it is and have been spending the days watching parts of it.  I have no DAW experience other than having 'dog ears'.
 
All I am using Sonar for is to Mix & Master my 10 song project.
I record it to an Alesis HD-24 and then dump it to the PC using my Alesis Fireport.
Of course I record all of the tracks flat
7 drum tracks
fiddle
steel
lead guitar
acoustic guitar 
bass
B3 or piano
lead vocal
second vocal
This is what is on most tracks.
Kind of making notes today on how to 'export' the project to CD once I get that far.
I may be back on later this evening, I was willing to pay someone to show me how to set up my docking views and how to add whatever effects to each instrument and the vocals.  I require very little vocal tuning but would like to know what to use that I can afford other than V-vocal to do that.
Thanks
 
2013/07/29 17:47:42
scook
You can also contact Cakewalk directly. http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/2839291
There phone support is great.
2013/07/29 18:18:19
John
My view is that if you watch some one do this stuff it might help or it could hurt. By figuring it out with us to help you will really learn it. Don't be afraid to ask questions. You outlined  some rather simple things that you want to do. Sonar is well placed to do those things. 
 
The pligins that come with X2 are great. If you have X2 producer you also have the Pro Channel. Its a channel strip type plugin that you can configure. EQ is there to begin with. You can add compressors and saturation. You may want to use the console emulation modules. 
 
The problem I see is I don't know just what you are having trouble with. I know DAWs are new to you but that is not enough information.
 
A couple things you need to list is first what bit depth and sample rate are those audio files you "dumped" into X2? Another is your system specs.  
 
I would like to know what you are using to monitor and how you have it all configured.
 
I'm asking for a lot of information but the more we have the better will be our answers.    
2013/07/29 18:21:42
wcedgar
Monitors are 20/20 Event
 
2013/07/29 18:39:44
John
First you have to setup your project. You have at least 15 tracks that you will need to output. I strongly recommend using buses with one being your master buss. The master buss is where all tracks and buses goto. It will out to your main outs. These are the actual hardware you are using. 
 
Getting back to the buses. Make a buss for the drums and one or more for the other tracks. You may want to have a vocal buss for example. Then out those tracks to that buss. 
 
Play back your project as is with the setup above. Listen to it find any level problems that are either too loud or too soft. Adjust the fader for that track so it sounds good. (as an aside before I start to mix I pull down all the faders so that none are going to blast me when I hit play)
 
That aside is a good way to begin a mix. Don't throw in plugins unless you know what you want from them. Most mixing is really a matter of adjusting the faders and using EQ properly. You may want to add a compressor here and there especially for the drums. and you may want to the Vocal Strip to your vocal buss. 
 
I could on and on but I am writing in the dark. I don't know enough about your project to just give basic ideas to you. 
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