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Hey guys.
 
My new DAW should be arriving tomorrow - built by Jim at Studio Cat.
 
I'm looking for reasonably affordable sw VST plugs to replace my old versions of:
 

• Antares Filter (CPU friendly Resonant Filter + Effects: delays, etc.)
• Antares Auto Tune 4 (Very happy with how CPU friendly and easy to use this is)
• Waves Original Gold Bundle (CPU friendly killer brick wall limiter, although the Q10 is great, too).

I really don't want to spend more than a few hundred dollars per plug. 
I need everything 64-bit!
 
...I want to do as little bit-bridging as possible.
 
 
Thanks in advance for any and all ideas!!
 
New DAW:
i7 950
12GB DDR3 1600
Win 7 x64
Sonar 8.5 + Kontak 4.1 + Symphobia, etc.
RME FF800
 
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SONAR 8.5.3 Producer Edition - very affordable since you already have it .
 

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Hey Sijel.

I'm confused by your response.

I'm looking for:

• a brick wall limiter (to replace L1/L2/L3)
• auto tune (to replace Antares AT3/4)
• resonant filter w/effects (to replace Antares Filter, which ROCKS!)

 
Again, I need them all to be 64-bit, and EXTREMELY CPU/RAM friendly.
 
Sonar does not have any of these integrated.
 
Yes, there is a limiter, but not L1-style brick wall...
 
Yes, there are great filters in Rapture, Dim Pro, etc., but not easy quick 1 track, VST effect with presets...
 
Unless I'm missing something...

Thanks again, man!

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I agree Filter is a great plugin, and it's very sad that they haven't updated it.

Check out FabFilter's products. I am a huge fan and would heartily recommend every one of their plugins. http://www.fabfilter.com/  -- they are pure gold for the money, in my opinion.

As for Auto-Tune in the x64 world, sadly you are very limited there. On that front, I will say that the options bundled in Cubase are very decent. But I imagine you might not want to hear that. Alternatively, use BitBridge or jBridge to get AutoTune working the way you want.

As for an affordable x64 limiter, there are a number of good choices out there. WaveArts is a solid work horse, and of course you have Voxengo to try out. Then the limiter in iZotope's Ozone is definitely usable. And always keep PSP Audioware on your short list.

But don't rule out running plugins with BitBridge if you have a particular plugin sound that you love and miss. It's very compatible with a large number of plugins, and if you run into trouble, jBridge is a great solution and works well with Sonar and Cubase.

I'm looking for: a brick wall limiter (to replace L1/L2/L3) auto tune (to replace Antares AT3/4) resonant filter w/effects (to replace Antares Filter, which ROCKS!) Again, I need them all to be 64-bit, and EXTREMELY CPU/RAM friendly.

BrickWall - try Boost 11 x64
AutoTune - try V-Vocal (see my work-process in the forum for successful V-Vocaling).
Filter - DimPro/Rapture (as you point out) - I've never used these on a per track basis... they may be limiting depending on what you are trying to do. 
BTW - I've used the Pentagon Synth sidechain (put it in Vocoder mode by right-clicking on the menu) for adding filter effects.  Again, not sure what specifically you're trying to do.
 
You can add in T-Racks Std/Deluxe ($) for more brickwall options and you can buy Melodyne ($$) for tuning options... personally, I haven't used other add-ons like Antares Filter.  But, there are a slew of expensive Synths out there that allow audio inputs.  I'll defer to others on Filter.
 
 
 
 

sqye


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Hey guys.
 
My new DAW should be arriving tomorrow - built by Jim at Studio Cat.
 
I'm looking for reasonably affordable sw VST plugs to replace my old versions of:
 

• Antares Filter (CPU friendly Resonant Filter + Effects: delays, etc.)
• Antares Auto Tune 4 (Very happy with how CPU friendly and easy to use this is)
• Waves Original Gold Bundle (CPU friendly killer brick wall limiter, although the Q10 is great, too).

I really don't want to spend more than a few hundred dollars per plug. 
I need everything 64-bit!
 
...I want to do as little bit-bridging as possible.
 
 
Thanks in advance for any and all ideas!!
 
New DAW:
i7 950
12GB DDR3 1600
Win 7 x64
Sonar 8.5 + Kontak 4.1 + Symphobia, etc.
RME FF800
 
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Hi sqye,

Check out Izotope's plugs. Alloy (for per track use) and Ozone for mastering your final mix. I think you'd be able to get by with using Ozone on a per track basis judging by your sys specs. I've done this with no problems at all. Ozone has an excellent limiter and dither. I honestly can't tell the difference between my dithered down CD masters and my original 24bit master when using Ozone. I can hear a slight difference using the built in dither in Sonar, but not a lot. Ozone is a 64 bit plug. There is a fully functional 10 day trial you download of Alloy and Ozone.

I've tried Anteres auto tune and much prefer V-Vocal. It is included with Sonar PE, not sure about the lesser version. I'm also not sure if it's 64bit.

As for the other plugs, not sure on those. I find it hard to get a good natural sound out of the suite of 64 mastering/compression plugs in Sonar PE and stopped using them. I went back to the Sonitus plugs which are 64bit now and I'm very happy with those.

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Hey thanks a ton - much appreciated, amigos - eratu, Sijel and Shane B.!!

You're rocking with all these suggestions...this is great.
 
Yes, I love the iZotope stuff, although I haven't used it in a while.
 
I also have some really nice limiter/compressor/fx plugs from VB in Germany.
 
I also love the way Sonitus sounds -
I've been using those plugs since they first made them - I love all of them -
EQ, compression, verb, delay, gates, etc. Simply great natural sounding plugs.
...and best of all, they don't kill the CPU!!
 
The V-Vocal GUI I've found to be a bit of a PITA. It also has a rep for being flakey.
 
Thx for the tip on the Pentagon - I forgot about this, and have never tried it.
 
I also haven't tried the Boost 11x64.
 
I was checking out some fabfilter stuff earlier - I even left them a vm to discuss their products.
...they do look killer.
 
And yes, I have jBridge installed on the machine.
 
I haven't decided whether I want to pay Waves $110 for 365 to renew NPP Vs. 4 (this just sounds stupid.)
...although for the thousands of sequences I have with Waves plugs, I'll just leave them on my legacy machines,
if I need to boot them.
 
The T-Rack Peak Limiter looks great - and people seem happy with it - some like it better than L2.
 
Melodyne is an option, as well as the FabFilter stuff, and some other tweaky synth plugs.

I'll delve into some research for the various suggestions here.

Awesome, I'm psyched!

Cheers, dudes.

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Sijel
BrickWall - try Boost 11 x64
AutoTune - try V-Vocal (see my work-process in the forum for successful V-Vocaling).
Filter - DimPro/Rapture (as you point out) - I've never used these on a per track basis... they may be limiting depending on what you are trying to do. 
BTW - I've used the Pentagon Synth sidechain (put it in Vocoder mode by right-clicking on the menu) for adding filter effects.  Again, not sure what specifically you're trying to do.
 
You can add in T-Racks Std/Deluxe ($) for more brickwall options and you can buy Melodyne ($$) for tuning options... personally, I haven't used other add-ons like Antares Filter.  But, there are a slew of expensive Synths out there that allow audio inputs.  I'll defer to others on Filter.
 

Hi, I do not recommend the V-Vocal. V-Vocal sound coloring

nix on v-vocal.  nix on Boost 11.  Fabfilter's stuff is, indeed, fab.  The T-Racks brickwall limiter is very good (but not, as yet, 64bit) and I use it all the time with no problem at all on the same (probably) 64bit system you're getting from Jim.  Why does everything HAVE to be 64bit?  Most (but, of course, not all) of my 32 bit plugs run fine using BitBridge.

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Hey thanks so much Polakzec and Yorolpal.

The general concensus on the V-Vocal is not great. Again, I don't find it intuitive at all.
And the processing results are mixed. But it's probably because I don't know how to use it efficiently.

Thanks for the fb on the 11x64 and T-Rack limiters.

Anyone use the PSP Xenon?
Voxengo Elephant?
WaveArts Final Plug?

Seems like iZotope's Ozone is $250 for the whole mastering package,
which I don't need. I'm only looking for a brick wall Peak Limiter to replace L2/L3.

WaveArts offers Track Plug and Final Plug - each is $150, and Track Plug is a channel strip,
which again, I don't really need. So Final Plug is an option as for both track and master limiting - if it's any good.

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