2013/07/27 14:14:17
dotonemanband
I'm trying to fade out tracks at the end of a song. I've selected and highlighted four measures on one single track. I then choose Process - Apply Effect - Fade/Envelope. Problem is when I go to the Fade/Envelope step the option is not highlighted for me to click. That's where I'm stumped and the project's on hold.  I know it's something I'm overlooking because yesterday I was able to go beyond that point and get to the graph that allows the options of different fades. Just not sure what I'm overlooking today. Suggestions pls.
2013/07/27 14:17:28
doncolga
I did this for the very first time today myself.  Go to the Master track in track view and hover over the Edit Filter menu.  Drop that down and select Automation, then Bus Output Volume.  Use the Smart Tool to add nodes then move those around to adjust your fade at the end.  This is what I did and it worked perfect.  Good luck.
 
Donny
2013/07/27 14:22:01
scook
Yes, volume envelops on tracks and buses are a more flexible, nondestructive way to perform the fade out.
2013/07/27 14:24:25
John
I use the fade at the end of a track. The upper right corner has the fade hot spot.   By holding ctrl you can apply fades to all tracks.
2013/07/27 14:50:56
ltb
Because it affects how buss comps & limiting responds I use a fade curve during the mastering stage, not pre-mixdown for song fade out.
If various track fades are desired I'll use any of the others types mentioned, depending on what type of fx's are used.
I.E. sometimes I'll want to fade the dry but have reverb remain by using a fade out curve on the audio clip itself, (switching the reverb send to pre..)
 
2013/07/27 15:26:44
dotonemanband
Thanks for the help. First step I tried was with advice from Donny C. and that worked for the most part. The project I'm doing is part midi track and part audio. All the midi tracks did fade right away (holding ctrl) although the audio did not. So I went to the audio tracks separately and did a fade and tweak and I can stop cursing now. Thanks to Scook and John as well... I can carry on....
2013/07/27 15:36:06
dotonemanband
One other item. My project ends at measure 107 (3:21) and yet the marker continues to about measure 115 (3:38). How do I delete these measures and dead air so that it stops at 107 (3:21)? I tried highlighting and deleting at the end but it won't let me....
2013/07/27 16:32:23
SteveStrummerUK
 
Hi Jeff
 
I'm guessing that there must be something out there at measure 115.
 
To quickly find the last event in your project, in the Track View select Ctrl+End.
 
If there is something out there, even an unused MIDI note, SONAR will include it as part of the project. To be sure of removing whatever is there, try selecting the measures you want to remove again, but this time select Edit>Delete Special and check all the options available, as well as 'Delete Hole'.
 
To see if that's cured your problem, place the Now Time back inside the project somewhere and hit Ctrl+End again.
 
2013/07/27 16:56:36
dotonemanband
Steve, I tried that suggestion, when I highlight the measures and go to Edit, the delete special and delete option won't highlite for me to click. I'll keep at it... thanks
2013/07/27 17:24:10
dotonemanband
Steve, found the problem, I first thought it might be in the master area where I faded out. After messing around with that idea a bit, there was a track showing a midi note at measure 115 (which wasn't showing before for some reason) but at least I've solved it thru trial and error (luck too)...again thanks for your help...
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