2016/08/31 17:44:36
57Gregy
Death.
Ooops. Too mordid. Sorry.
2016/08/31 17:45:24
Beepster
Chiros can be "helpful" temporarily.
 
Physiotherapists can change your life.
 
I'm serious, man. I've recovered a couple times and got to keep on living a real life a little longer thanks to the methods and professionals I mentioned.... against serious (and unforeseen) odds.
 
The things they taught me even though I don't have access to such treatment anymore have made so maybe... someday, I'll have a little Beepster Rennaisance before shuffling off to my mortal coil.
 
Once you get your back lined up again and the massive flareups abate you need to work on STRENGTH and flexibilty WITHIN THE PARAMATERS of what your spine will allow.
 
Once you can move freely again you work all the supportive muscles needed to "favor" your chronic injuries.
 
Then you have less flare ups, you get stronger and life becomes more enjoyable.
 
This is what I do/work for EVERY day when I'm not cramming my brain full of useful music stuff.
 
Physio, dood. DO EEET!!!
 
 
2016/08/31 18:01:53
eph221
BobF
eph221
Yes, I have a herniated disc.  I've had it for many years and it only flares every now and then when I sleep on it wrong.  As I get older I get various aches and pains as well.  I'd do the medicinal pot, but I have a p/t job that involves driving and they don't allow weed.  My two other jobs it would be fine though.




I was diagnosed many years with a bulging disk problem.  My doc had me a surgical path.  I went for a second opinion.
 
The next doc prescribed Feldene (Piroxicam).  He told me to start out one a day for about two weeks, then I was supposed to get really irregular with it.  Take it a few days, skip an odd day or two here and there.
 
Combined with a very specific set of stretches, I was pain free in about 6 mos.  I never experienced any of the side effects listed as possible with it.
 
I realize herniated is a different game, but it's something to check out anyway.


It's along the lines of a bulging disc.  I will consider everything I've learned here today.  Thanks!
2016/08/31 18:25:22
Jesse Screed
 ***?
 
Jesse Q. Screed
 
 
2016/08/31 19:01:14
TheMaartian
bapu
Given time TM, the medical maryjane producers may well become the same as the "pharmaceutical robber barons". 


Only if we let them. As soon as we get rid of the stupid 25-mile rule in AZ (no grow rights if you live within 25 miles of a dispensary (THAT was added by the MMJ dispensary robber barons), my tents go back up.
2016/08/31 19:13:38
eph221
Jesse Screed
 ***?
 
Jesse Q. Screed
 
 


Jesse *** is really good for depression,  not that great for pain though.
2016/08/31 19:20:59
TheMaartian
Beepster
Smoking that stuff does crap all unless you have glaucoma or need something to make you eat. Tea or edibles are better for that stuff.
...

That is a complete load of B.S.
 
I've been on it since 1972, and I can tell you the precise differences between smoking, vaping and eating the exact same strain. I can also tell the difference between a 9-week flower and a 10-week flower of the exact same strain when smoking or vaping. Eating is too diffused and too time-delayed to be able to notice the small differences.
 
Stick to what you know for a fact, not what you've heard, or what your biases are.
 
I also herniated a disk (L3-L4). Eating MMJ for that specific issue was a waste of good meds. Vaping is safer and is appropriate for most uses, but there is NOTHING like the instant relief you get from smoking. Vaping is close, but it's not the same. If you've got pain from a herniated disk, that LAST thing you want to do is wait 45-60 minutes before you get any kind of noticeable relief.
 
And try to find an edible that is strain-specific. You're lucky to find sativa, hybrid and indica choices.
 
The strain matters. How long it was allowed to flower matters. How it is dried and cured matters.
 
There's weed. And then there's medical marijuana. Same plant. Two different approaches to growing it. I do NOT like concentrates. I want access to the fresh plant and all of the goodness it provides (cannabinoids (both active (THC) and inactive (THCA), plus CBD, CBG, CBN et. all), terpenes/terpenoids and flavonoids).
 
Mexican brick is NOT medicine.
 
EDIT: It also took a very good chiropractor several months and then a good message therapist another six months to get me through that. I still deal with it the same as the OP...if I sleep in a weird position or some other seemingly innocuous thing. I haven't felt the need to take a single pain pill of any type (I still have some with codeine). For years!
2016/08/31 19:25:40
jbow
Certain tryptamines work very well in micro doses. Nothing legal works for real pain or chronic pain. For a headache or temporary back pain, yeah. Pain from standing in a retail store on a concrete floor... really good shoes. Expensive Asics would be my advice.
 
For disk pain or other chronic pain when OTC does not work you will need opiates or illegals... just be careful and don't expect to ever be pain free just to be so it is tolerable and you can function.
Stay away from time released meds. You can control what you take with fast acting meds and take them when you need them, more sometime, less sometime. With the ER meds you have no control.
Sativa or very low dose fungi will work very well. No one checks for trytamines or for LDS analogs, which you can buy online. It is your life, don't let other people's decisions ruin it, you only live once.
J
2016/08/31 19:34:45
eph221
jbow
Certain tryptamines work very well in micro doses. Nothing legal works for real pain or chronic pain. For a headache or temporary back pain, yeah. Pain from standing in a retail store on a concrete floor... really good shoes. Expensive Asics would be my advice.
 
For disk pain or other chronic pain when OTC does not work you will need opiates or illegals... just be careful and don't expect to ever be pain free just to be so it is tolerable and you can function.
Stay away from time released meds. You can control what you take with fast acting meds and take them when you need them, more sometime, less sometime. With the ER meds you have no control.
Sativa or very low dose fungi will work very well. No one checks for trytamines or for LDS analogs, which you can buy online. It is your life, don't let other people's decisions ruin it, you only live once.
J




 
I'm Buddhist...
2016/08/31 19:48:34
Beepster
eerrmm... Maartian...
 
Got a teensy bit of experience with this...
 
Eating/drinking the stuff works better for muscular/skeletal/nerve pain in a more REAL way.
 
Indeed slower acting and whatnot.
 
However I liken smoking to the effects of aceto based stuff and opiods (distracts you from the pain) as opposed to eating which is more like ibu/muscle relaxers.
 
BUT whatever works for whomever and however is all good by me.
 
I was going to add an addendum to my post but thought it would be too "political".
 
That adendum would have been, more or less...
 
LEGALIZE!!!
 
/not a pothead
//anymore
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