2016/08/31 20:26:58
bitflipper
I can attest to the pain-relieving properties of marijuana. Not a myth. Believe me, if it had just been wishful thinking I'd have known right away.
 
My back pain from spinal stenosis was intense and unrelenting, and unresponsive to chiropractic and physical therapy, as well as steroid injections. OTC pain meds did nothing and my digestive system couldn't handle opiates. Marijuana allowed me to drastically cut back on the conventional painkillers (oxycodone, vicodin, percoset, et al). The downside, as John noted above, is you can't get high from marijuana in this context. 
 
I agree that there are better ways to ingest it than smoking. My preferred method is tea. That was only economically feasible, though, because I grew my own plants on the back porch. Store-bought pot is too expensive for brewing tea. You can, however, buy a tincture product that works very well. You just put a few drops into a cup of, say, peppermint tea. That addresses the most significant downside to eating/drinking the stuff: the difficulty of gauging dosage.
 
My son-in-law has cancer in his spine and kidneys. He, too, swears by the pain-relief he gets from marijuana, although he also takes morphine and oxycodone so it's hard to know how much the pot contributes.
 
We are lucky to live in a state where marijuana is legal.
 
Back to the topic. I asked my doctor the very same question that started this thread: what options are there other than opiates? His answer surprised and dismayed me. "None", he said. At one point I did get an injection of something they described as "super tylenol". That was so I could sit still long enough for an EKG. It worked. I jokingly asked if they'd send me home with a couple syringes of the stuff, but they said it's dangerous and they don't like to use it. 
 
So there you have it. Nothing is anywhere nearly as effective as opiates. Aleve (Naproxin) is probably the most effective of the OTC medications, but I'm sure that kills your kidneys or something. 
2016/08/31 21:49:41
sharke
Curcumin (found in turmeric) is very effective for muscular or joint pain/arthritis. It had a great result on my lower back when I had trouble with it a couple of years ago. Although I think it only works in the kind of doses you get in the capsules and not just from sprinkling a bit of turmeric on your food (although that can't hurt). 
 
Yep weed is a great pain reliever. If I have a bad headache for instance, it just melts it away. But I'm not really a fan of some of the mega-strains you get today. It's just a completely different kind of high from the weed I smoked as a kid, and I'm not sure I find it that pleasant. Someone told me it was something to do with a different ratio of THC to cannabinoids - too much of the former compared to the latter or something. I'll tell you how different it feels to me. If I smoke too much of today's weed, the room actually starts to spin and I can't keep my head up. I've had a few cases in which I've had my headphones on at my computer and ended up with my head slumped on my keyboard and the feeling that if I move, I'm going to be sick. I never, ever experienced that with smoking weed 20 years ago. 
 
The highs I used to get from weed 20 years ago had a smooth gradient from 0 - 10 depending on how much I smoked. The weed I've tried recently seems to go like 0, 1, 9, 10 with nothing in between
 
 
2016/08/31 22:14:07
eph221
I didn't mean for this to turn into a polemic about drugs.  Sorry to the moderators.  To anyone in pain, I commiserate.  I've experienced excruciating pain, the kind that makes one nausiated...tomorrow may be a better day as the song goes.
2016/09/01 12:25:32
TheMaartian
eph221
I didn't mean for this to turn into a polemic about drugs.  Sorry to the moderators.  To anyone in pain, I commiserate.  I've experienced excruciating pain, the kind that makes one nausiated...tomorrow may be a better day as the song goes.

+1 on commiseration. Nothing worse than physical pain.
 
Since you're the OP...end of thread.
2016/09/01 15:23:00
Moshkito
eph221
?




Easy ... the box 6 foot under that houses what's left of you!
 
No more pain for sure!
 
(... thank Evelyn Waugh and Jonathan Winters for that one!)
2016/09/01 23:31:42
craigb
Hypnosis.  But sometimes it can work too well so any ethical hypnotherapist will NOT work on you unless it's in conjunction with your PCP's approval.  One way it can work too well is when you can't feel any pain you do things you shouldn't and cause more injury.  A little pain can be a good thing, a lot, not so much.
 
I can also say you should not discount the power you have over your body.  Especially with back issues.  When you get down to it, the back is just a bunch of discs suspended by softer parts in-between.  Inversion therapy can help unload the spine and often the parts will return to their correct places after a while.  It is also possible to do some things that Western medical doctors say is "impossible" - I know because I was supposed to have my L3 and L4 fused together after they had degenerated together, I got a second opinion.  One of the teachers I had while I was working on my PhD told me to take an NLP approach and reframe it as "my discs are regenerating" since all cells in the body get replaced (skin is the quickest, bones can take up to 8 or more years).  It took me almost four years but I regrew my discs and, when I went back to my doctor, he took an x-ray and said "That's impossible!"  An unexpected upshot from all this is that I was now taller than I'd ever been (I was 6'3" in high school, then shrunk due to the lower back issues to 6'1.5", and wound up as 6'4" afterwards).
2016/09/02 00:05:35
eph221
My doc gave me Tramadol and said since it was a synthetic opiod it wouldn't cause dependence.  Honestly, it didn't help that much with the pain.  Handfuls and handfuls of ibuprofen seems to be the only drug that works.  I realize I have to watch it with stomach issues potentially cropping up.  He also threw methocarbomal at me.  None of that stuff works though.  Again, if you're in pain try and get to sleep...that's the goal...get...sleep....next day might be better.
2016/09/07 19:31:29
eph221
Well, I took a methocarbamal last night.  I sure hope this doesn't get on the streets, because man it was quite a good feeling.
2016/09/07 20:02:09
Jesse Screed
Pain, each of us knows that nagging companion, some more than others.
 
Could I cast out your pain?  Know that I would!
 
Get away from me Pain!
 
Jesse Q. Screed
2016/09/07 23:15:32
craigb

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