chuckebaby

ampfixer
You could be mega mind and still get stumped by Sonar. I think this is a personal issue for sharke, no voodoo will fix it. I get some little riff going and one day it just won't load. I usually go to my folders and pull out the audio and midi to create a new project. That's my go-to fix for projects gone bad.

well its either just give up or try.
I remember an issue with guitar rig a few weeks back, I think he was able to resolve it (I might be wrong)
but rather than just say its voodoo, a personal issue and wrap it up.
its worth trying to give it a positive shot  :)
im sorry about your problems john, hope it all works out someday with an update or upgrade.
sucks trying to make music and have problems.
but rather than share in the misery sometimes we got to give it a shot man.
unfortunately, this is not my bag  :)  so some mere moral support I can give.
 
"its got to be something..." !!!!
:)
 
good luck on this guys.

 
If you mean my ongoing issue with Guitar Rig effects having their settings zeroed when the project loads, well I never got to the bottom of that. Nor the issue with Waves effects having their settings zeroed, or now the ProChannel EQ having it's settings zeroed as well. 

sharke

chuckebaby

ampfixer
You could be mega mind and still get stumped by Sonar. I think this is a personal issue for sharke, no voodoo will fix it. I get some little riff going and one day it just won't load. I usually go to my folders and pull out the audio and midi to create a new project. That's my go-to fix for projects gone bad.

well its either just give up or try.
I remember an issue with guitar rig a few weeks back, I think he was able to resolve it (I might be wrong)
but rather than just say its voodoo, a personal issue and wrap it up.
its worth trying to give it a positive shot  :)
im sorry about your problems john, hope it all works out someday with an update or upgrade.
sucks trying to make music and have problems.
but rather than share in the misery sometimes we got to give it a shot man.
unfortunately, this is not my bag  :)  so some mere moral support I can give.
 
"its got to be something..." !!!!
:)
 
good luck on this guys.

 
If you mean my ongoing issue with Guitar Rig effects having their settings zeroed when the project loads, well I never got to the bottom of that. Nor the issue with Waves effects having their settings zeroed, or now the ProChannel EQ having it's settings zeroed as well. 

I wasn't sure. I remember noel jumping in, I thought he was able to tell you what was going on and how to fix it by reinstalling or something(I didn't catch the whole thread)
I can see how you would be demoralized here no doubt.
just try to stay positive, weather it is sonar,ni, or what ever.
good luck on this.

chuckebaby

sharke

chuckebaby

ampfixer
You could be mega mind and still get stumped by Sonar. I think this is a personal issue for sharke, no voodoo will fix it. I get some little riff going and one day it just won't load. I usually go to my folders and pull out the audio and midi to create a new project. That's my go-to fix for projects gone bad.

well its either just give up or try.
I remember an issue with guitar rig a few weeks back, I think he was able to resolve it (I might be wrong)
but rather than just say its voodoo, a personal issue and wrap it up.
its worth trying to give it a positive shot  :)
im sorry about your problems john, hope it all works out someday with an update or upgrade.
sucks trying to make music and have problems.
but rather than share in the misery sometimes we got to give it a shot man.
unfortunately, this is not my bag  :)  so some mere moral support I can give.
 
"its got to be something..." !!!!
:)
 
good luck on this guys.

 
If you mean my ongoing issue with Guitar Rig effects having their settings zeroed when the project loads, well I never got to the bottom of that. Nor the issue with Waves effects having their settings zeroed, or now the ProChannel EQ having it's settings zeroed as well. 

I wasn't sure. I remember noel jumping in, I thought he was able to tell you what was going on and how to fix it by reinstalling or something(I didn't catch the whole thread)
I can see how you would be demoralized here no doubt.
just try to stay positive, weather it is sonar,ni, or what ever.
good luck on this.

I've tried reinstalling both Sonar and the Native Instruments stuff to no avail, demoralized pretty much sums it up! The worst part of it was that I had some of these problems months ago and they nearly drove me insane, then they disappeared and I was extra happy about it. So to have them reappear again is doubly infuriating....my finger is constantly hovering over the Cubase/Studio One order button...

@sharke - howdy and good morning.
 
By any chance, did you save off your settings in Guitar Rig as presets?
 
Also. what information can you relay as to how you set the instance(s) of GR for this project (and the loaded sound for each instance)?
 
Bob Bone
 

sharke: I really feel for you since I and others can't replicate the issue. I'd like to help but if I can't replicate I can't experience it.
 
Regarding the versioning, I'm sure there are 'versions' of libraries but they may not be published as such (as opposed to the Kontakt engine which would be). Since you have no issues in PT and Reaper and the library runs in standalone mode I think there is an issue with the Kontakt script engine and how X2 is interacting with it. Based on that I'd have to say the solution would probably need to go through Cakewalk Tech Support.
 
Sorry I can't be of any assistance.
 
Regards,
 

robert_e_bone
@sharke - howdy and good morning.
 
By any chance, did you save off your settings in Guitar Rig as presets?
 
Also. what information can you relay as to how you set the instance(s) of GR for this project (and the loaded sound for each instance)?
 
Bob Bone
 

I can save the settings as presets and load them every time I load the project, I guess that's a workaround. Really, the settings should be saved with the project and loaded flawlessly with it, regardless of whether or not it's saved as a preset. You should be able to fire up GR, load some effects into it, and Sonar should remember what's there and how they're set. Or you should be able to load a factory preset and tweak the settings. That's how it works on the whole, but Sonar occasionally zeros the settings out. It would be less confusing if it happened every time but it doesn't. Anyhoo, I'm not suffering from the problem right now for the simple reason that I've stopped using Guitar Rig in Sonar (until such time as I forget that it doesn't work properly again!). My main problem at the minute is with the Kontakt Drummer libraries. 

mmorgan
sharke: I really feel for you since I and others can't replicate the issue. I'd like to help but if I can't replicate I can't experience it.
 
Regarding the versioning, I'm sure there are 'versions' of libraries but they may not be published as such (as opposed to the Kontakt engine which would be). Since you have no issues in PT and Reaper and the library runs in standalone mode I think there is an issue with the Kontakt script engine and how X2 is interacting with it. Based on that I'd have to say the solution would probably need to go through Cakewalk Tech Support.
 
Sorry I can't be of any assistance.
 
Regards,
 

Yep a problem with the script engine and Sonar is probably what's happening. I thinking there must be something inherently different about the way Sonar interacts with this stuff as opposed to other DAW's. 

There was a Kontakt 5.2 update. Probably not relevent but "A lot of other minor bugs fixed" could address some issues
 
New effect: Feedback compressor.
Fixed loading Reaktor sample maps in Kontakt
(and some other 3rd party format loading fixes too).
In-App authorization
fixed (causing intermittent missing libraries).
KSP: a lot of improvements
for MIDI object processing (MIDI files can now be loaded into
multiscript!).
Fixed rare crashes when streaming NCWs.
Flex envelope
incorrectly displaying currently selected node fixed (also fixed crashing when
right-clicking the very first node on PC - didn't happen on Mac).
A lot of
other minor bugs fixed

Glyn Barnes
There was a Kontakt 5.2 update. Probably not relevent but "A lot of other minor bugs fixed" could address some issues
 
New effect: Feedback compressor.
Fixed loading Reaktor sample maps in Kontakt
(and some other 3rd party format loading fixes too).
In-App authorization
fixed (causing intermittent missing libraries).
KSP: a lot of improvements
for MIDI object processing (MIDI files can now be loaded into
multiscript!).
Fixed rare crashes when streaming NCWs.
Flex envelope
incorrectly displaying currently selected node fixed (also fixed crashing when
right-clicking the very first node on PC - didn't happen on Mac).
A lot of
other minor bugs fixed

Thanks, but I'm already on version 5.2.0.6361. 

One possibility is Windows/Other updates... "Nothing's changed..." is not always guaranteed.  Is your DAW hooked up to the Internet?  If so, there is a possibility that an invisible background update for Windows (or any other number of programs) has inserted itself into the script stream.  You might try reverting to a previous "Set" point in Windows (can't remember the exact terminology) when all was working.  If you truly have not changed anything, then reverting back a bit shouldn't screw anything up.
 
Secondly, I remember sometime in the past hearing about an issue with Kontakt/Kompakt needing to load FIRST (issue was with Kontakt and EastWest Play) in order to play nice.
 
I also recommend contacting Cake support directly.
 
Best,
Rob