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2013/06/21 18:00:58
jb101
John
All of the PC modules are well documented Brian and those questions are answered. 
 
The EQ in particular has different settings to add color or not. 




I with John, there, but would just like to add one thing:-
 
Ref  "Is the PC EQ true-bypass when it sits at its default settings? AFIK, nobody has corroborated or denied that. Obviously one could disable it via the blue button in it's upper corner, but what about when it's enabled, but not set to boost or cut anything?"
 
Simple test - Switch on the EQ and listen..  Do you hear a difference?
 
If you do, you have your answer, although I'm guessing you don't hear a difference, or you wouldn't need to ask, and would be describing how it does.
 
If you don't hear a change, then either-
a) it doesn't affect the signal, or
b) it does, but since you can't hear the difference, it doesn't matter, surely?
2013/06/21 18:05:44
cclarry
The PC Modules are great.

That being said, the PC doesn't have a "sound" per se...the MODULES
have "sound"

The PC is really nothing more then a glorified "effects" bin.  So to sit back
and "praise the glory of" is kinda silly...don't freak..just my opinion...

The Quad Curve is what gives "sound" without any modules being inserted,
AND it's NOT removable.   You CAN turn it off, but you can't get rid of it in
favor of another EQ, it's ALWAYS in the signal chain.

I LOVE the PC Modules...they are quite awesome.  But, alas, I'm a realist
and will "pop" any bubble that is "pseudo"

Where Cake has REALLY, REALLY, REALLY dropped the ball here is in NOT
giving us an ONSLAUGHT of PC Modules to take the money that we spend
on OTHER 3rd Party Plugins.

The LAST PC Module we got was an "Updated to VST" PC-2A....and when
was that?  DUH!!!

Personally, I would like to be able to "delete" the Quad Curve and use
what ever EQ I would choose to use, or have Cake give us MORE EQ
choices...but...as I said...what do I know.

I know I shall suffer the WRATH OF THE CAKE-ITES for this post....but
no one ever said the truth was pretty....just pretty real.
2013/06/21 18:17:34
John
Your truth not the truth.  No one said it was the PC itself that was sounding so great. Which seems rather obvious. You can use any EQ you want nothing is stopping you. Oh you don't want the built in EQ to be there. I see, get X2 Studio. Either way it wont interfere with anything if you don't activate it.
2013/06/21 18:32:52
cclarry
John
Your truth not the truth.  No one said it was the PC itself that was sounding so great. Which seems rather obvious. You can use any EQ you want nothing is stopping you. Oh you don't want the built in EQ to be there. I see, get X2 Studio. Either way it wont interfere with anything if you don't activate it.



WRATH OF THE CAKE-ITES

The OP states, and I QUOTE "Pro Channel and it's UNIQUE sound"  End of story...bye bye..
I think you missed the entire point of my post....sorry to offend you ...

And the Quad Curve EQ loads into memory when you open X2...even if it's turned off...so it's STILL occupying
memory space...even when bypassed.  THAT was my point.
2013/06/21 18:50:04
John
The same thing is true of Sonar 8.5. Its built in EQ also loads into memory. Such a huge burden. Again if it bothers you you should get Studio or something else.  
 
I don't think anyone was confused by how the OP wrote his post. 
2013/06/21 20:48:46
jb101
I think most right thinking people understood what the OP meant by the sound of the ProChannel.
 
If the minute amount of memory that the QuadCurve EQ takes up when switched off causes anyone a problem, then it is probably time to upgrade your memory.  I always try to leave myself some headroom.
 
I also would like some more modules - can I request a Pultec emulation again?
 
 
 
2013/06/21 21:12:18
cclarry
Thank You for proving my point...
2013/06/21 21:44:47
lawajava
jb101
I've not used the PC presets in X2, I must get round to giving them a look.  I've often learnt a lot by looking at well designed presets.


Jb101 - another thing I highly recommend is experimenting by adding to any of your tracks on the ProChannel one or more of the Included FX Chains. There are some even grouped under a ProChannel category from the Browser. Really sweet stuff. You can find the ProChannel goes way farther than expected when inserting some of those.
2013/06/21 22:11:24
John
cclarry
Thank You for proving my point...


You have no point. All your post was about was a complaint about the wording used by the OP that anyone could understand. Then you make an observation that some one may disagree with you.  Instead of just saying some may disagree you label them in an attempt to intimidate anyone that might have a different point of view and post. Thus trying to prevent a free and open discussion.
 
You don't come off as someone that has a clue what the ProChannel is all about or how it can be useful to a Sonar user. And what is most evident is you are trying hard to stir up conflict when none is called for. 
 
Sorry if I come across as a Sonar-ite. That I will accept because I do use it a lot.  Cake-ite I don't know what that might be. 
2013/06/21 23:50:36
MelodicJimmy
PC is awesome.  Recorded some vocals recently..... needed to cut some low frequencies..... BOOM.  Done.  Five seconds.  Amazing. 
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