• SONAR
  • No X2b = No $$$ for Cake and off to another sequencer! (p.14)
2013/07/22 18:37:08
pbognar
Jim Roseberry
bladetragic
With the release of Logic Pro X, Cakewalk better get on top of things b/c the competition has just gotten that much stiffer.




Logic Pro X really didn't add that much new/revolutionary to the table...
IMO, Cubase 7.05, ProTools 11 (once 64Bit AAX support shakes out), and DP8 are a lot more "stiff" competition for Sonar.
And these don't require switching platform...


For me, it's which app doesn't get in the way, and makes creating music fun.
 
We'll have to see what X3 brings.
 
Cubase 7 added some nice musical enhancements.  Their window handling stinks.
 
Logic Pro 9 was already pretty tempting, Pro X just made it more tempting.
 
It may not be a platform switch, but rather a dedicated DAW platform aquisition.
2013/07/22 18:53:18
dubdisciple
I doubt apple would have any interest in making Logic or any of their other Mac exclusive products made available for other OS.  It is very typical for mac owners to proclaim the superiority of mac only programs and that oddly ads value.  I recall when Final Cut users would swear how great Final Cut was to Premiere Pro...until Final Cut X sucked and Premiere became available again for Mac.  If Apple wanted Logic to be available to windows users they could have easily not dropped the windows version to begin with.
2013/07/22 18:58:31
SuperG
dubdisciple
btw, i think windows kind of sucks but is the lesser of two evils for me at the moment.  I'm partial to Linux but it's just not practical to run linux all the time

 
I'm with you, there. All three have idiosyncrasies.
 
2013/07/22 19:02:33
SuperG
dubdisciple
I recall when Final Cut users would swear how great Final Cut was to Premiere Pro...until Final Cut X sucked

 
Heh, and forgetting that Final Cut and Premier come from the same Macromedia code base...
 
2013/07/22 19:14:08
The Maillard Reaction
SuperG
dubdisciple
I recall when Final Cut users would swear how great Final Cut was to Premiere Pro...until Final Cut X sucked

 
Heh, and forgetting that Final Cut and Premier come from the same Macromedia code base...
 




 
Premiere 1 was being sold by Adobe a year prior to the existence of a company known as Macromedia.
 
They both use the Quicktime Framework.
 
2013/07/22 19:44:27
WDI
Rain
What I get for $2700 is worth it because it frees me from having to think about computers before I buy the computer and then for years after I buy it, until the next upgrade. For me as a musician, as long as the platform works just fine, that's $2700 well invested.  The comparatively "underpowered" Macs seem to do well enough for a majority of the folks I know in the industry and I've yet to see an album not being released or a soundtrack not being delivered because of a comparatively underpowered machine. Their productivity would probably take more of a hit if they'd start comparing computers and basically try to fix what isn't broken...


That is one big draw for me on Macs. I can choose my model easily and be up and running immediately. Very little work involved. Plus support provided by apple is convenient. Don't have to rely on finding the solution for the 3rd party hardware myself. They provide a pretty complete system from beginning to end with their software including office and multi media software. It just makes it easy. Call me lazy, you are correct. One stop shop fore pretty much everything. Done.

I think that is what you are also paying for and at the same time the draw for a lot of people. I don't think people want to be bogged down with all the work involved in PCs.
2013/07/22 20:11:27
alexoosthoek
A good old friend told me once: who's going to talk about this in 50 years?
Use x if you like it and/or use y if you like it or use both.
 
 
And have fun using whatever : )
2013/07/22 20:23:23
AndyDavis
I can understand why a musician would want to just plop down some money and be up and running immediately without worrying about the details.  What I can't understand is folks that treat the computer buying experience as a choice  between lovingly crafted macs and whatever fell off the shipping dock at Dell or having to learn all the arcane details of every hardware piece around.
 
You can have a worry free, just pick your model and go, experience with a PC:  Go to Studio Cat, pick your model, and check out.  The plus side is that you will get a lot more PC for your money and you will actually know the name of the guy that sold it to you.
2013/07/22 21:02:59
WDI
AndyDavis
I can understand why a musician would want to just plop down some money and be up and running immediately without worrying about the details.  What I can't understand is folks that treat the computer buying experience as a choice  between lovingly crafted macs and whatever fell off the shipping dock at Dell or having to learn all the arcane details of every hardware piece around. You can have a worry free, just pick your model and go, experience with a PC:  Go to Studio Cat, pick your model, and check out.  The plus side is that you will get a lot more PC for your money and you will actually know the name of the guy that sold it to you.


But it's still not like the company writing software providing the hardware and support.
2013/07/22 21:03:39
dubdisciple
Final Cut was actually developed by a team that created premiere pro.  That team ended up with Macromedia and acquired by Apple, so everybody is kinda right.
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