Wow. 
 
Opinions are just that - however - it doesn't make sense to point out that someone opinion is their's and theirs alone, and then proceed to declare one's own, period. Oh well...
 
Facts
 
My DAW is make by Cakewalk.
My interface is made by Motu. (I just plugged it in and it worked!)
 
Final Cut was created by Macromedia.
Logic was created by Emagic.
If Apple is mighty in anything, it's buying other people's stuff, and marketing it.
 
You can plug a USB audio device, a hard drive, a memory stick, none of them need drivers in Windows, 'It's all built in'. 'It just works'. (Hey, this Apple speak is easy..)
 
You can get free Piano lessons from a gajillion places on the web.
 
Core Audio is nothing more exciting than audio API, and response to a need - the same as kernel mode drivers in Windows.
 
The money saved purchasing a non Apple computer is available to you now, instead of losing value sitting on your desk, waiting for you to sell yesterday's technology to some chump.
 
You opinion is your, but mine is mine.  If I period it, it might possibly appear to the unnwashed to mean something more... 

GIM Productions

Jackdied
I think the most of  "happy w x2a " users are not working in industry. Maybe these little issues are not a big deal for them.  But trust me i could loose my client and can not pay  my  flat rents  just because of a single crash. So every single bug are potential troubles for my business.  That's why i'm coming here and looking for X2b update everyday. Thats why I am impatient. Please  understand my/our situation.
 
ahh also sorry for my English.

You wrong mate!!
I'm a pro ,i'm working on many international releases and our works have been reviewed by Defected records and Tony Humphries,i have done five songs for important italian Christmas's movies...
then i'm in the industry.
So many clients choose Sonar Prj over ProTools Prj for its detailed and deep sound......for me Sonar is the best DAW,for me........but,excuse me, when i use a new stuff, before, I read the manual.
Best

I'm a pro and use PT when *I have to* but 99% of the time stay in X2a.

GIM Productions

Jackdied
I think the most of  "happy w x2a " users are not working in industry. Maybe these little issues are not a big deal for them.  But trust me i could loose my client and can not pay  my  flat rents  just because of a single crash. So every single bug are potential troubles for my business.  That's why i'm coming here and looking for X2b update everyday. Thats why I am impatient. Please  understand my/our situation.
 
ahh also sorry for my English.

You wrong mate!!
I'm a pro ,i'm working on many international releases and our works have been reviewed by Defected records and Tony Humphries,i have done five songs for important italian Christmas's movies...
then i'm in the industry.
So many clients choose Sonar Prj over ProTools Prj for its detailed and deep sound......for me Sonar is the best DAW,for me........but,excuse me, when i use a new stuff, before, I read the manual.
Best

Hi,
I thinks it´s not a question of issues and bugs of sx 2  ,
at least here in good old germany the clients are still very sceptical about Sonar ( 8,5, X1 , X2 aso.).
Sonar has a really  "buggy " image here.
Even from amateurs are basicly only pt and q-base accepted as professionel sequencer.
 
How about that in england and usa?

KPerry
Patches come with a list of fixes on the website/download page.
 
The readme installed with SONAR (and updated with patches) file carries a number of issues and workarounds.
 
Maybe not totally comprehensive, but to say it doesn't exist is simply not true.

I believe what Brian is referring to as "not existing" is the OPEN bugs.

X dissenters
In my relatively short experience ITB,and it's possibly due to my previous experience racing and maintaining Motocross bikes long ago,but it's[ X2's reliability]is incredibly based on knowing your Hardware.
 
Just over 2 years ago I'd literally never ever touched a computer[except a bank ATM!]which I'm not proud of,I was just a struggling "luddite" but experienced electric guitar player,anyway I fairly impulsively bought an i7 dell xps L502x,though I was extremely lucky,as had I ordered 5-7 days earlier,I would have ended up with the previous model,the xps L501x,which according to a poor chap on gearslutz,couldn't run ANY DAW,due to horriffic DPC latency,and he was trying with the "just released" RME Babyface!
 
Anyway,I had some major hurdles,with X1[Tascam interfaces,95% user error],so I researched[very very easy,with the insightful posts of Jim Roseberry,and even more so,from Scott from ADK]and bought a parts picked,STORE ASSEMBLED win 7 64 Professional desktop,and guess what? Not one thing has EVER gone wrong,on That machine,with X1 ABCD and Expanded,and now X2! It's quite incredible.
 
I still prefer to use my laptop,[which  throws tantrums,and quibles,but I still get my projects done],mainly cause the room the desktop is in,is either freezing in winter[now]or Oven like in Spring Summer Autumn[Oz is a land of extremes!]but really,I think it's because I just cannot stand my Rokit 5" G2 monitors,sure they go loud[I like to mix VERY quietly]have big bass,for such small drivers but mids,high mids,highs to an extent,are just complete fog,but that is another story!
 
The way I see it in these 2 and a bit years of ITB recording,is it's your computer,and its happiness,that IS paramount for Sonar,PT,or anything else to work,even semi perfectly,until then,a different daw,may even make things worse?,Oh and even though its 27 months with computers TOTAL,it's 30 years with electrical guitar...voice?,not too long.
Good Luck
Bob

bobguitkillerleft
X dissenters
In my relatively short experience ITB,and it's possibly due to my previous experience racing and maintaining Motocross bikes long ago,but it's[ X2's reliability]is incredibly based on knowing your Hardware.
 

That's part of the story, but not all. 
 
Your particular workflow can make a big difference.  Look at the list of bugs fixed with each update, and you'll see a bunch of things like "Fixed issue where splitting a track when track is solo'd would sometimes cause a crash."
 
If you never do that as part of your workflow, you will have a much better experience than someone who does that every day as part of the way they work, and wonders why (until the update comes out) they have crashes all the time.
 
I'm not sure that SONAR is any worse than any other DAW as far as stability, but there's no denying that in any piece of software this complex there are bugs.
 
John

Fair argument John,as guitar playing is what I really only do,a lot of the time,although this computer thing,has really,really cut in to the amount of time I actually spend "playing",it's actually kinda frightening.
 

Cheers
Bob

I believe a lot of folks have read this forum before buying, read the negative reviews that some leave here and still buy it anyway,
why ??
because its like that gross thing on your finger that you tell someone smell this, and they know they shouldn't but they do.
on the other hand some are looking at it like well, there are some good reviews too.
matter of fact I think there is more good than bad, but seeing how this is forum for users who need help (not counting the regulars like myself).
but think of the 1000,s of copys that were sold of x2.
now look at the amount of complaints.
ill say(and be generous; around 200)
 
when you do the math, that's a lot of success actually.
I think there are a few things with this version that could be better and polished up but its a very nice piece of work.
im very productive and have had great luck with it so far.
I even had one Cubase user interested in switching over after watching me work in x2.
im not saying x2 is better, but if you do a lot of work in one area then of course your not going to be happy if those functions are not a daw's strong points.
I believe what he was telling me is that the new Cubase console view is a huge complaint amoung many,many users.
its very unproductive and hard to work in.
now maybe im confusing another view but I did look read a few reviews and it was a big thing with Cubase users.
so not everything out there is what you think it is either.

I read through the forum after buying X1, but before jumping to X2. It's a hard thing to gauge, but I waited until the first patch came out before I did buy X2, because I was hoping any bugs found would result in Quick-fixes. I was impressed with the Quick-fix, but that was the only one. What changed in that strategy? That was a good idea.
 
Anyway...I stand by my stance that it's not good business to sell a software product without disclosing open issues and/or workarounds on the website. Not that this doesn't happen every day, but to hide open issues from site to mitigate the harm to sales is not something I appreciate as a customer, and the less I will trust such a company. So, my "trust" in Cakewalk/Roland is very limited, and always has been even though I bought the product and still use it. If none of the DAW makers will take the initiative, then we'll never see that. Maybe Cakewalk will be the big man here and own up to listing open issues, setting an example. 

Is X2b the Bitwig of Cakewalk?