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2013/07/22 12:32:52
brconflict
Vista was a great way to get a new OS in front of people while the "real" one was being tweaked. It was meant to be flawless, but there were so many challenges and delays, it quickly because disregarded as a solid OS. In my opinion, it was an extended Beta Test. It was radically new compared to XP. I believe Microsoft was prepared for the worst, and while they were fixing the issues in Vista, Windows 7 was receiving some preventive vaccinations from an ill market. Not a bad strategy, but when you hold the market like they did then, you can pretty much do what you want (for a short period of time). When Windows 7 came out, it was met with raving reviews and much happier users. In fact, Vista was so bad, that users would pay the upgrade to Windows 7 just to get away from all the headaches.
 
 
2013/07/22 13:23:04
John
I don't think any of that is true. I do recall that MS was blind sided by hardware makers that touted their XP machines for Vista even after MS had developed a Vista logo to show Vista compatibility. The problem was MS didn't insist that those using that logo prove that Vista would even run on their machines. MS had to change the logo so they would have some control over those that didn't measure up.
 
Unlike Windows 7 Vista had no preview or general release before the retail version was offered. No one except a few beta testers had any idea what Longhorn was going to be like. Longhorn was the code for what became Vista. Something that was years in the making.
 
Another thing was that 64 bits became more popular and Vista was offered as both a 32 bit OS and a 64 bit OS. This complicated things because even though XP also had both they were not sold together. Also developers were extremely slow in providing 64 bit drivers for XP and were not too fast with Vista either. Cakewalk was one of the very first to adopt 64 bits but it was Vista that made the users think about using a 64 bit OS in large numbers. It was a sort of critical mass situation.
 
What really happened to Vista was multiple things 1st was the need to upgrade the hardware 2nd was the exploitation of Apple with ads that were great marketing but totally untrue implying that Vista was a bad OS. (Those that spout this line seem very gullible to me and have bought into the propaganda) 3rd a real lack of good drivers for both the 32 bit version and almost none for the 64 bit version.
 
With all that its a wonder that anyone used Vista but a few did and found it a great OS that was new in many ways. First and foremost was its new Aero graphics engine. A huge step in speeding up the over all feel of the OS.  Then there were a lot of things we now take for granted and so many that a run down would take too long. 
 
It really bugs me when some one carelessly throws out the popular belief that Vista was a dog of an OS. When in fact it was the beginning of a whole new way to work with a computer as well as being a very solid one. We now have Windows 8 another mile stone in computing that those in a position to appreciate it will benefit greatly from.  
 
We are seeing some of the same nay sayers popping up saying the vague things that are meant to make us have second thoughts. This is not only true of our choice of OS but also our choice in a DAW.
 
The same old tired lines are used and the message is the same MS sucks and so does CW.
 
I reject that and I hope others are able to think for themselves too. 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
     
2013/07/22 13:26:12
SteveStrummerUK
 
I never had any problems with Vista.
 
Hey John, didn't you run some tests back then for us? I could have sworn I remember you posting the results in here.
2013/07/22 13:33:20
John
I may have posted results from other's tests. I can't recall. 
 
Steve as you know I posted a lot on Vista. I can't remember all that i posted. Heck I can't recall what I posted yesterday. Did I post yesterday?
2013/07/22 13:35:11
SteveStrummerUK
John
... Did I post yesterday?



I don't know mate...
 
I haven't been actively stalking you for at least a week now
 
 
2013/07/22 13:38:50
kevo
Regardless of operating system, Microsoft at least continued to support the product and release patches for it even long after the release of a new product.
Sonar X2 cannot be compared to any MS Operating system.
 
I've run DAWs on Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows Vista, Windows XP and Windows 7 all with success.
 
If you wish to make the comparison, then Sonar X2 is EOL (End Of Life). Over 7 months with no patches, updates, or communication puts the product at the end of it's life.
 
 
2013/07/22 13:39:55
Keni
I'm still running a couple of Vista machines here. One 32 and the other 64... I have no real problem with either... I am running Win7 x64 on my DAW and it is indeed a cleaner interface, but my audio performance is fine on all three...

Sonar? X1 was a bad experience for me, but X2 cleared up a lot of things... Then X2a fixed more, but introduced Lanes which has been a plague on my work... Tho Sonar itself basically runs fine on all...

The OP seems to be comparing apples and oranges somewhat...? And neither with much real purpose in mind... What is this thread supposed to be doing?

Keni
2013/07/22 13:43:57
John
"What is this thread supposed to be doing?" 
 
Giving me another chance at defending Vista! LOL
2013/07/22 15:06:34
robert_e_bone
These threads do mystify me.  
 
I wish more forum folks would invest time in helping each other than tearing things apart.
 
Bob Bone
2013/07/22 15:17:27
dubdisciple
I guess experiences vary but I hated Vista. I found it much less stable than XP.  In fact it was Vista that made me start using Linux for everything except functions I could not do in Linux like run photoshop.
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