I figured from the start that it was just another drive by.

Mike it is but that doesn't mean we can't have fun with it.

I'll add my $.03...    I think X1 was actually CW's Vista - a big change from WinXP, issues out of the gate (for various reasons), but working well after a few updates & patches.  Which would make X2 more along the lines of Win7, right?     Right.  
 
And that means that X3 will have a tiled UI and we all lived happily ever after.   The end.
 

I have a feeling X2a is it for X2.  They're giving Z3TA+2 w/ X2 now.  That's similar to promotions they've done before right before the next version is released... Whaddya bet Z3TA+2 is going to be included in in X3? 
 
Man I hope X3 fixes the bugs I've been waiting for X2b for!
 
Peace,
 
Ian
 

John

daveny5
Wrong. Vista was crap. X2 was Windows 7 compared to Vista. X2A is a fine product.

No that is not accurate. I found it to a much better OS then XP. So did others. What was wrong was many tried to run it on an XP machine and not on a machine meant for Vista.
 
If your experience differs it is due to not having the right hardware to run it. Its likely you never ran Vista on good hardware and thus are only repeating what a few have said. I doubt you did any real research on the subject but if did I am open to any evidence you can provide. On the other hand if this is what you believe you may find that its time to reconsider. 

It was on my wife's computer which was supposedly Vista ready. It crashed so badly she wound up losing data. I couldn't recover it and we had to rebuild. Every time I tried to use it, it was a huge pain in the ass and I refused to upgrade my computer to Vista. We did later put SP1 on and it was slightly better, but I still have the scars from that initial release. I never did install Vista on my computer, but I did use the Windows 7 pre-release and bought Windows 7 on day one of its release and never had a problem with it. 7 was a joy. Vista was annoying with its constant security checking. At first I didn't like 8 as much as 7, but once I got the Classic Shell, that made it as good or better than 7. 
 
 

Yes, musicroom, I had indeed just had a giant cup of coffee...lol..spot on mate!!  Apologies to all about my rant...my comparison of Vista to X2a was meant to be more tongue and cheek than then anything else but I always forget how attached some folks are to their cherished OS apparently. My point of the comparison simply being that once a product is released, if it encounters resistance like X2 originally did, its sometimes more profitable to move on to a newer release than patch an older one, even if the subsequent patches make it a viable product. Either way, no offence intended.
 
Bob,
I must say that I always find your posts to be helpful and truly well intended and that always gives me hope when I finally get time to read these forums. Working a full time post room job leaves little time to respond and yes I have sent many problem reporters with attached project files. The difficulty is never the obvious ones ( take lanes, automation, ect ) but the intermittent ones that plague a project. Projects that run perfectly on X1 simply seem to encounter problems when ported over to X2. And I do realize that having to bridge vst's and the huge variety of system differences out there add to this giant puzzle of a stable DAW but all things being equal, if the projects run perfect on one DAW version and not another, yes, this is frustrating when you loose clients as a result of it....sorry for the rant.
 
Chuck,
Again, you always seem to give the poster the benefit of the doubt and I , as Im sure many others here, really do appreciate the helpful advice and intention to lend a hand. My intention was not to raise the negative post count and certainly not to increase my post count ( 70 something in seven years lol )  just the time I have available...so again, sorry for the rant.
 
Mix room build: Win 7 64 bit audio only PC, Intel p7p55d with an i5, 16 gig Corsair, 500 gig 7200rpm 32 mg cache raptor for OS, 3 1T 10, 000 32 mg cache raptors for ( Audio, Library, Data) OEM OS install, Nvidia 8600gs Fanless w/1 gig, RME Fireface 800 with Apogee converters for the front end, Sonar X1exd downgrade from X2a, PT 10, only.
 
Post room build:  identical with the addition a of LAN to the router for online Auth, file transfer, ect.  

How do you like the Apogee converters?

So about Vista...I'm still running Vista on a PC Audio Labs laptop because, well, it just keeps working. The initial release was premature, but people who know much more about this stuff than I do say that the last Vista updates basically replaced large chunks of Vista code with Windows 7 code, so you ended up with an OS that was pretty much Windows 7 anyway. I haven't gone to Windows 8 on my desktop, though...

Mike,
 
We have the older Rosetta 800's that take the boards DI's and the rack stuff goes to the RME, both linked via ADAT from the RME. They sound faithful and true but considering what we paid for them new, it would be hard to justify now with all the great gear in the last 3 years. Had an Apollo here for 2 weeks during a video shoot and honestly, the converters are pretty damn amazingly open for the money considering the fact that you can color them with an arsenal of pre A/D plugs in real time. Its a new world I guess
 
Craig,
 
Yeah, had all the versions of Vista as well but since the jump to win764, haven't looked back. Win7 has been the most stable OS Ive ever worked on period. I'm sure, as you say, that's due in part to all the groundwork that Vista laid before it. When I come to work and never have to think about a tool because it always works...i'm sold lol! Truly a joy to work on for a audio based build.
 
..although, to be completely fair, the combination of Microsoft's Silverlight and Netflix does suck complete Ass

I think a major Vista problem for end users was the updating. I need to re-install Vista just before I transitioned over to Windows 7, and it took forever. I'd do an update and Windows would say it was updated. But if I tried immediately to find new software, it almost always did and then did another update. You had to do this serial updating thing, without a clue as to when it was going to be over, until it just wouldn't update any more. So then you'd reboot and try one last time, just to make sure :)