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2013/07/24 09:29:52
parsa
Hello,

I'm trying to record some songs by myself, and  currently i have a keyboard workstation and two guitars, one being electric and the other acoustic. unfortunetly that leaves me off playing drums with my keyboard, which i'm not good at it at all.
While playing, sometimes the drums go off-tempo and timing. recently i've became so frustrated about this  since no matter how i try, my drums still go off the tempo.

I wanted to know, that what is the best way to quantize my audio  drum track, so it could be sinked greatly into the tempo of the song?
Some researches led me to audiosnap, but i have no idea how could i use it. unfortunetly i'm blind and use the computer's keyboard to navigate and use sonar, and most of audio snap instruction videos are too vision detailed with less commentary about what they're doing.

I would appreciate and be so happy if someone could explain audio snap abit, (or perferably some other tools) for quantizing audio.
it's also noteable to say that i'm a daw newb.
Oh and i'm using sonar 8.5.3.

Thanks and cheers

Parsa
2013/07/24 11:56:30
bitflipper
AudioSnap is indeed the tool for that job. And yes, it's a bit obtuse, but worth the effort to learn.
 
Google "audiosnap site:youtube.com" for some tutorials.
2013/07/25 12:31:44
pianodano
I am wondering WHY he doesn't just record the midi data. He said he's using a keyboard. That  sure would be simpler than recording the audio and trying to quantize that.
 
Don't know if you noticed but he said he was blind.
2013/07/25 15:16:00
bitflipper
Oops, I did miss that! Apologies to the OP.
 
OK, so visual impairment not only rules out training videos but perhaps AudioSnap, too. Danny's right on the money with the suggestion to record MIDI instead of audio! Much easier to quantize.
 
Parsa, are you using a click track or metronome while recording? It's very hard not to drift while listening to non-percussive backing music while overdubbing drums. Even most drummers have a hard time doing it. A nice loud, simple tick-tick-tick can be much easier to follow, especially for keyboard players.
2013/07/26 05:33:42
Bristol_Jonesey
You could also try using input quantize which will align every note played to a preset grid, however, there might well be artistic reasons why this could be less than desirable
2013/07/26 10:52:06
Cactus Music
Yes , what you should be doing is using MIDI data input from your keyboard to play any drum sound via say, Session Drummer live. Then those notes are very easy to edit. 
 
But as Bit flipper is saying you should always record your guitar parts to a click track first or it's next to impossible to make a very tight recording. 
What I use is a basic drum pattern instead of a click, It gives me a better feel for the songs groove. There are patterns in Session drummer. 
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