I just spent an hour or so creating a cadence in the PRV because the staff view just is so substandard. It would have been nice if had only taken 10 minutes at the most. Maybe I'll get faster at the PRV as I have a lot more to do. At least for percussion parts it's not to bad. Still to much time consumed though.

You may wish to try the Step Sequencer next time. 

Guitarpima
I just spent an hour or so creating a cadence in the PRV because the staff view just is so substandard. It would have been nice if had only taken 10 minutes at the most. Maybe I'll get faster at the PRV as I have a lot more to do. At least for percussion parts it's not to bad. Still to much time consumed though.

Not quite sure if you're asking for help.  I've composed 8 symphonies (each one with 800-1000 or more measures) in the staff view and many shorter compositions.  Though it does have its imperfections, I don't understand why you're having trouble with it.
 
1.  Are you keybinding notes? (q=quarter, s=sixteenth, w=whole, etc.)
2.  Are you knowledgeable enough of music notation to take advantage of it?
3.  Are you keybinding tempo, meter/key and controller change dialogue boxes?
4.  Are you using multiple docked staff views (locking each view) so that you don't have to continually open the "pick tracks" dialogue box?  (this saves a lot of time)
 
The staff views of all DAWS are very similar.  Cubase, DP8 for Windows--neither are any faster than Sonar's staff view.   There is far more musical detail that can be achieved using the staff view, in contrast to the PRV but knowledge of counterpoint, voice-leading and harmony is required to benefit from it.   I find the combination of the staff view and the event list gives me all the options I need to write detailed, contrapuntal music that has dynamics, phrasing, gesture, articulation, etc. 
 
Jerry
www.jerrygerber.com
 
 

Jerry, your post makes me smile. I feel like a child looking up at a bird.

I'm just complaining. I can do all that too. I'm very proficient at notation. I had to use the PRV view because I could not get certain rudiments to play. The problem is I never use the PRV so I have to figure it out every time I use it. If the staff view went deeper than 32nd notes by subdividing twice more and display correctly, I could have done it in the SV. Remember, I said cadence. Since there are many types of cadences, I should have specified a marching snare cadence. Nothing plagal about that. ;-)

jsg
 
The staff views of all DAWS are very similar.  Cubase, DP8 for Windows--neither are any faster than Sonar's staff view.   There is far more musical detail that can be achieved using the staff view, in contrast to the PRV but knowledge of counterpoint, voice-leading and harmony is required to benefit from it.   I find the combination of the staff view and the event list gives me all the options I need to write detailed, contrapuntal music that has dynamics, phrasing, gesture, articulation, etc. 
 
Jerry
www.jerrygerber.com
 

 
With all due respect you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.  After many years with Sonar and 3 months working with Cubase 7, I can tell you that Cubase's notation facilities are in no way similar to Sonar X2. Sonar's notation facilities are one step above Band-in-a-Box notation whereas Cubase's is closer to Sibelius, which I own.  Cubase notation is far better than Notion 4 which I also own.  In more than one way Cubase notation is faster and easier then Sibelius.  To say that all DAW notation is similar, especially when you are comparing to Sonar, is simply misinformation.  I will not take the time to explain the features of Cubase because you can download a demo and see for yourself if interested.  I applaud your ability to compose symphonies in Sonar.  A house can be built without power tools but I certainly wouldn't do it that way.  To imply that hand tools are as good a way to build a house as power tools is ridiculous.   If you use notation Sonar is, in fact, the wrong tool for the job.

Guitarpima
I'm just complaining. I can do all that too. I'm very proficient at notation. I had to use the PRV view because I could not get certain rudiments to play. The problem is I never use the PRV so I have to figure it out every time I use it. If the staff view went deeper than 32nd notes by subdividing twice more and display correctly, I could have done it in the SV. Remember, I said cadence. Since there are many types of cadences, I should have specified a marching snare cadence. Nothing plagal about that. ;-)

Why would cadences be any different (in terms of using the staff view) than any other musical phrase or device?  Though the staff view does not display 64th notes correctly, it plays them back correctly and accurately, as Sonar does the tied and dotted triplets.  I would still rather look at incorrect notation in those few instances knowing playback is right than look at the PRV view, which, I would think, most trained composers who read and write music find not only useless but horribly imprecise.   Of course the ideal would be for CW for fix the staff view's display, which I have no real expectations of happening.
 
JG
www.jerrygerber.com

jsg
...the PRV view, which, I would think, most trained composers who read and write music find not only useless but horribly imprecise...

PRV imprecise?  Please explain.

Kev999

jsg
...the PRV view, which, I would think, most trained composers who read and write music find not only useless but horribly imprecise...

PRV imprecise?  Please explain.

Perhaps "precise" is the wrong term.  Try writing a 3-voice fugue if you know how, or any piece with intricate, or not so intricate, counterpoint and you'll quickly realize two things:  1) why notation has been around for around 1000 years, and 2) why the PRV roll can't compete with notation in terms of creating, developing and and employing variation in composition.  For simple dance music or any kind of music that is very repetitious and rhythmically conservative, I imagine some people thing the PRV is the best thing to happen to DAWs.
 
JG
www.jerrygerber.com

i was about to say the same thing as kev but just left it, i do however think the prv is a great composition tool.
with its only real limitations in my situations is not being able to produce chords on a 1 click basis.