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Mentioning competitor software features as a comparison can be productive. But advertising competitors software here or trying to pursuade users to switch to a competitor software is low.

How come? All of the debate has been extremely respectful I think? Its good insight for Cakewalk too. The fact that people are still contributing to this forum after switching to C7 shows they are still vested and hoping that Cakewalk produces a great release.

See the comments about logic on the previous page.

After struggling with X2a for a few months, it is back to 8.5.3 for me.  I will also give Cubase a trial run.  I will miss the Pro Channel and some other features, but the take lanes have been a work flow nightmare and the behavior overall has been glitchy.  With no other changes to my system, 8.5.3 was very stable whereas X2a locks up multiple times daily.
 
I hope Cakewalk gets the message coming loud and clear from long-time users (like me) and implements some fixes and improvements to work flow. 

mike_mccue
"I remember investing a lot back in the early days in DXi - same deal. Its peculiar to Sonar and will have limited shelf life I suspect as no one supports the format. I had to buy a lot of plugins later in VST. Very annoying."
 
 
What is really annoying is that the very same company that promoted the DX format plug ins will not sell its Producer licensees the versatile and useful 64bit Sonnitus VSTs that they include with the SONAR Studio package.
 
You can buy an extra copy of SONAR Studio if you want to upgrade your Sonnitus VST to 64bit but you can't buy the 64bit VSTs separately the way you can buy the Pro Channel cripple ware.
 
I've been thinking of buying a used copy of SONAR X1 Studio on eBay just to get the 64bit Sonnitus VSTs for use with Studio One (x64).

Mike,
 
If you install the 64-bit version of SONAR you will get the 64-bit DXi's of Sonitus.

If you install the 32-bit version of SONAR you will get the 32-bit DXi's of Sonitus.
 
The VST versions of the Sonitus:fx Suite, available at our webstore are 32-bit. There has never been 64-bit versions of these plug-ins.
 
You are probably basing your erroneous info off the poorly worded webstore description. It forgets to mention that only the DXi versions are included with SONAR Studio.

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Seth Kellogg [Cakewalk]

mike_mccue
"I remember investing a lot back in the early days in DXi - same deal. Its peculiar to Sonar and will have limited shelf life I suspect as no one supports the format. I had to buy a lot of plugins later in VST. Very annoying."
 
 
What is really annoying is that the very same company that promoted the DX format plug ins will not sell its Producer licensees the versatile and useful 64bit Sonnitus VSTs that they include with the SONAR Studio package.
 
You can buy an extra copy of SONAR Studio if you want to upgrade your Sonnitus VST to 64bit but you can't buy the 64bit VSTs separately the way you can buy the Pro Channel cripple ware.
 
I've been thinking of buying a used copy of SONAR X1 Studio on eBay just to get the 64bit Sonnitus VSTs for use with Studio One (x64).

Mike,
 
If you install the 64-bit version of SONAR you will get the 64-bit DXi's of Sonitus.

If you install the 32-bit version of SONAR you will get the 32-bit DXi's of Sonitus.
 
The VST versions of the Sonitus:fx Suite, available at our webstore are 32-bit. There has never been 64-bit versions of these plug-ins.
 
You are probably basing your erroneous info off the poorly worded webstore description. It forgets to mention that only the DXi versions are included with SONAR Studio.

Cheers for the clarification Seth, Appreciated.

I loved Sonitus plugs - great sounding, low CPU usage and great interface. I can't really use the 32 bit plugins in C7 as the bit bridge which Steinberg use is nohwere near as robust as Cakewalks in my experience and they don't support DX.
 

Been using Sonar since v1 and this is the FIRST time ..i repeat the first time i've actually made the decision to ditch it and buy something else.
 
I know it inside and out, have always used the same compatible hardware/software, and my system's honed to perfection - it's simply that Cake refuses to release a 'b' update, as they've done with every version - plain and simple.  So in essence, because they won't fix all the issues, funds are coming out of MY pocket, instead of theirs (i.e. regarding time), on a new sequencer. With EVERY incarnation of Sonar, they've released 2-3 updates, yet this time, only one i think. If they would go ahead and release the thing, i would stay on-board, but i really don't think they've "got it in them". Time will tell if their integrity is weightier than the economically recessive 'trying times' they, as well as we all, are experiencing today.

I think with Roland being on board there will be a new direction for Sonar. My gut tells me there is a lot of cool work going on behind the scenes and I hope a jump forward for the series. In saying that. Who knows. You can only hope.

Welp, they're going to have to have something done by NAMM 2014, which isn't a warm thought, but my money is on that.  My gut tells me X2b is a dead issue and we're going to have to move on past that.

brconflict
Welp, they're going to have to have something done by NAMM 2014, which isn't a warm thought, but my money is on that.  My gut tells me X2b is a dead issue and we're going to have to move on past that.

Agree Brian - its been too long now. I'd be surprised.