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2015/03/26 12:17:02
michaelhanson
Here is another new song by Scandalous Grace, let us know what you think of this one.  I did the mix and pseudo mastering on this song.
 
Thief:
 
https://soundcloud.com/michaeljhanson/thief
 
Michael Hanson: Bass Guitar, Acoustic Guitar, Lead Vocal, Drum Programing.
Sean Peifer: Acoustic Guitar, Vocals.
Reece Bain: Keys, Triangle, Vocals.
2015/03/26 12:27:24
Venus
BGVs were good. Lyrically and compositionally well written/performed. Probably don't need that first 18s intro or before the 2nd verse (a little long), just start straight into the verse. I like the simple added picking guitar too-adds some dimension.
2015/03/26 16:03:31
ggillman
Love it!  Nice Job!
2015/03/27 10:58:13
michaelhanson
Hey Venus....thank you for listening and the nice compliments.  This one came together pretty well for us.  I hear what you are saying about the Intro.  I guess I am old school and kind of like that instrumental build up.  Artistic choice I guess you would call it.  
 
ggillman....thank you for listening as well.  Glad that you enjoyed the song.
2015/03/27 17:55:17
Guitarhacker
I agree with Venus.... cut the long intro and the turnaround into the 2nd verse... don't waste time on such things.... get into the song and the verse. People have short attention spans.
 
I like the loose feeling to the BGV's.  Recording is good. 
2015/03/27 20:36:38
Rimshot
Very good melody and lyrics. Original and heartfelt. Playing and arrangement is good. Maybe a bit loose but the feel is there so it doesn't really matter.  
I think the piano is too compressed. Again, all subjective. You guys are really coming along in honest delivery and style. 
 
I like the lead vocal Michael.  Really good and natural.
I like the intro and break before the 2nd verse. If people are in too much a hurry to listen to the feel and setup, then they probably won't keep playing the song as a favorite. 
 
I is one thing to suggest to cut some of the excess off to get to the point but another thing to say you just want to relax with the grove before the vocals.  I like that approach on this tune. Others I may not. 
 
Anyway, I say thumbs up to all of you.  Keep up the good work and maybe take a break from the song to come back and really listen to all the parts. You may find some plays with clicks or noise that could be cleaned up. 
 
The lyrics are really well done. I like the lyric and melody the best on this production.  
 
 
 
Jimmy
 
 
2015/03/28 09:34:54
emeraldsoul
cool. I would also vote to keep the build-up. I don't think you intended audience will short-attention-span their way out of this. It may not sell well to the 15-19 year old market segment. :)
 
However, your guitar player should have another run at that intro sequence, as you transition from the Dmaj to the Emin, it's not done cleanly, and it is very noticeable.
 
When it all got going with bass, drums, and piano, I thought the mix balance was excellent!
 
cheers,
-Tom
2015/03/28 10:27:05
michaelhanson
Jimmy,  Thank you.....coming from you those are some mighty big compliments.  I appreciate it.  Yes, as a group, we are starting to gel...musically and personally.  The song production seems to be maturing.  I like the long (a whole 18 sec) intro myself.  As you say, I feel it sets up the mood of the song and the vocals. 
 
You have razor ears my brother.  I have lost a little of my highs, for hearing, so I thought the pops where not there.  Reece picked up on the worst one, which I fixed before I posted the song.  It has to do with an editing trick that I was trying...an Anderton method of slicing into clips and then gain automating the vocal notes.  It seems to have left me with some almost undetectable, pop/clicks.  I think I can fix them, but I want to wait until I have some undivided time to really focus on the trouble spots.
 
You also noted the loose feel.  That is actually something that I have been going for in my productions.  A little more loose, not perfectly polished.....with a little more character.  Yet, still professional sounding.  So, if that is working, then I am getting there. 
 
Tom, Thank you as well.  I'll take your vote also on the longer intro.   I am picking a simple 3 chord, D2, Asus2, G progression at the beginning.  I kind of snap the strings with the pads of my fingers when I am getting those open chords to drone and one of them hangs up a little at the beginning.  It was kind of an artistic choice for me to leave it, I was going for that non-perfect "Thief" feeling, I thought it might add to the feeling of the song.  If it is really an issue for other, I could simply slice and paste a cleaner part into the beginning.  If others have issues with it, please let me know.  I am on the fence with this one. 
2015/03/28 14:39:22
philz
Loved the song and the performances are spot on.  Mix is good too.  The intro could be shorter as others have noted.
2015/03/28 16:29:13
SongCraft
Outstanding song, arrangements and mix.
 
Minor Criticisms: Lack luster intro, there's a break in flow/technique (performance) and overall not quite strong enough on its own.  And I think the intro length is okay (1x rpt progression of 3 chords), the intro also needs to build up, some additions (i.e. vocals/harmonies wailing, layered guitars) in the 2nd half will make the intro more captivating. Solo guitar overall is a little dry and brittle then ends abruptly.
 
 
 
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