Hello there!
 
I am new to Sonar x2 and I am using many multiple channels VSTIs, such as Edirol Orchestral and Miroslav Philharmonik. However, I have to link each channel to a midi track in order to use their specific instruments, and when I want to add -let's say an EQ- to it in the FX panel, I only get a "MIDI Plugin" option with almost nothing.
 
I heard about "bumping" the midi track to an audio track in order to apply the FX to it, but I would prefer to leave it as a midi track so I can still easily edit it.
 
Any other solutions? How can I apply an FX to a midi track? Thank you very much everyone.

You can apply the effects to the synth track, not the midi track, however it will be applied to all instruments that are assigned to that synth. Personally I bounce each individual midi track to an audio track then I can apply different effects to each. 

I do agree that it's best to leave it as a MIDI track until your 100% happy with a song. I actually never have to freeze or bounce because i use only a dozen or so midi tracks at best. I can see a whole orchestra being different
 
It is best to not use too many different efx in a mix so there's nothing wrong with just adding an efx send to the Synth track itself. I prefer to only use one reverb on a mix. So both audio and synths share it using a send. 
But Bass and Kick will then need there own synth to remain dry so just insert a second synth. 
The TTS-1 has 2 editable reverb and efxs sends that I don't think many people are aware exists. And it seems to be turned off for the kick drum so you have a lot of control. 
 
Eq is a tricky one but for me I will see if the sound can be edited as I come from that era where we always tweeked every patch. The editing of some synths is limited but often EQ is available if you dig in there. 
 

Just insert the effect on the audio track the synth is outputting it to and if you're using an instrument track, then just insert the effect on the instrument track. Its pretty much the same as inserting effects on an audio track.
 
CJ

You don't apply effects to the mid track full stop.
Most if not all of those VSTi's come with their own effects but they are generally not as good as the ones that come with sonar or other 3rd party effects.
The only way you would be getting midi fx  and not audio fx when trying to insert an effect is because you are trying to insert them in to a midi track.
 
When you insert one of your VSTi's how are you doing it?
If you use the synth rack you should always get your synth track (audio) with the option to include a midi track that is already routed.
You can have as many audio tracks for your VSTi as your VSTi will allow.
Miroslav philharmonik gives you 16 stereo outputs which you then have to route (from within philharmonikto) to separate any of the 16 audio tracks provided. Once you've done that you can use whatever effects you have to treat each of your instruments.
 
Steve

Thanks everyone for all the fast replies!

twaddle
When you insert one of your VSTi's how are you doing it?
If you use the synth rack you should always get your synth track (audio) with the option to include a midi track that is already routed.
You can have as many audio tracks for your VSTi as your VSTi will allow.
Miroslav philharmonik gives you 16 stereo outputs which you then have to route (from within philharmonikto) to separate any of the 16 audio tracks provided. Once you've done that you can use whatever effects you have to treat each of your instruments.
 
Steve

Insert->Insert Soft Synth->(Example) Miroslav Philharmonik
 
After that, I just right click on the track space and I create a midi track linked to the Miroslav Philharmonik channel I want.
 
If I understand, the right way to do it would be to go to the synth rack, insert an instrument and when the setting window comes out I just tick the midi track thing? Will try it when I get back at home. Didn't know it would make a difference.
 
EDIT: can you point me out the directions to do it? Sorry I'm a total noob lol

As long as you are inserting your synth via the browser you will always see the, "insert synth options" screen before anything else happens.
Here you have a range of choices. I tend to always use the same options (I never use "simple instrument track")
The options are fairly self explanatory such as, Midi source means you will be given a single midi track that will already be assigned to your instrument.
Synth track folder is always useful especially when you have a multi instrument synth that is being fed by multiple midi tracks with multiple audio outputs
which is what you will be using. Ticking, "include midi track" doesn't mean you cant add further midi tracks, it just gets you started.
 
If you are only going to be using one synth with one midi track then you should choose, "first synth audio output" otherwise you can choose whether you
want to have stereo or mono outputs.
 
Hope that's helped
 
Steve

The only way you would be getting midi fx and not audio fx when trying to insert an effect is because you are trying to insert them in to a midi track.

He wants to insert effects like EQ. The easiest way is to insert an audio effect on the audio track that is outputting the MIDI data or the instrument track.. A MIDI effect is something like transpose and velocity. You wont find MIDI effects for effects like EQ.
MIDI is just DATA. It has no sound.
 
CJ

CJaysMusic

The only way you would be getting midi fx and not audio fx when trying to insert an effect is because you are trying to insert them in to a midi track.

He wants to insert effects like EQ. The easiest way is to insert an audio effect on the audio track that is outputting the MIDI data or the instrument track.. A MIDI effect is something like transpose and velocity. You wont find MIDI effects for effects like EQ.
MIDI is just DATA. It has no sound.
 
CJ

I know that's what he wants but he said when he tried to insert effects all he was getting was a "midi plug in option"
That can only happen on a mid track, if he were trying to insert effects on an audio track he would see audio effects, that was my point.
Surely it's impossible to load any softsynth without there being an audio track ?
So if he's seeing only "midi plug in options" he must have both midi and audio tracks but is trying to insert his effects via a midi track.
I know what he wants to do and I'm trying to get him there with minimal confusion.
 
Steve

I got ya Twaddle