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  • MIDI Bounce to Clips doesn't seem to be working in X2a, but it did work in X1d
2013/07/09 11:39:52
hendrikxix
I am switching from X1d to X2a. The transition is more difficult than I would have expected. I don't seem to be able to combine several MIDI clips into a single larger MIDI clip. When I draw in some MIDI data into the Piano Roll it appears as being several separate clips. When I select the clips and try to join them together using Bounce to Clips nothing happens.
 
Is this a new X2a "feature" or is something broken?
 
Hendrik
 
 
2013/07/09 11:56:33
Beepster
That's weird. It's worked when I've done it. Maybe try restarting Sonar then give it another shot. If it still doesn't work open a new project and make some MIDI clips and try it there. If it works in the new project something my be going wonky in your current project. It happens sometimes. Cheers.
2013/07/09 12:59:44
chuckebaby
try lassoing the clip.
I know exactly what your talking about. cake already knows about it and hopefully we will see this fixed.
but for now its easy enough to either hi-lite the track and bounce to clips or lasso the clips, (right click/drag)
then bounce them to clips.
 
I get in the habit of keeping clean tracks, meaning every few edits or so I double double click the tracks selection button(this sometimes can hi-lite everything) so then click the selection button once more and now everything in your track should be a lighter color (meaning all data in the track is selected)
now bounce to clips.
if you want to do just small sections use the lasso method as explained by me earlier, just as to make sure you lasso from both edges, one side of the clip to the other, if you don't you may miss a piece of a clip underneath.
now all your clips are on one layer.
 
good luck hendrikxix
2013/07/09 13:08:52
chuckebaby
Beepster
That's weird. It's worked when I've done it. Maybe try restarting Sonar then give it another shot. If it still doesn't work open a new project and make some MIDI clips and try it there. If it works in the new project something my be going wonky in your current project. It happens sometimes. Cheers.


its a strange occurrence where if you make an edit in prv on a midi clip, if you bounce the clip to a groove clip and then make another edit to the groove clip in the prv it starts another layer.
or if you have one reg. clip and a groove clip butting up against each other and try to copy a small piece of midi over the adjoining sections, it creates another layer on the same midi track, but this layer cant be expanded.
 
its a strange one  :)
 
peace buddy
2013/07/09 13:13:55
Beepster
Hi, Chuck. Not quite following that but I guess that's likely because I usually don't get to fancy with my MIDI clip/Groove clip/PRV adventures. I will definitely keep an eye out for this though. Thanks.
2013/07/09 14:25:17
stevec
chuckebaby
Beepster
That's weird. It's worked when I've done it. Maybe try restarting Sonar then give it another shot. If it still doesn't work open a new project and make some MIDI clips and try it there. If it works in the new project something my be going wonky in your current project. It happens sometimes. Cheers.


its a strange occurrence where if you make an edit in prv on a midi clip, if you bounce the clip to a groove clip and then make another edit to the groove clip in the prv it starts another layer.
or if you have one reg. clip and a groove clip butting up against each other and try to copy a small piece of midi over the adjoining sections, it creates another layer on the same midi track, but this layer cant be expanded.
 
its a strange one  :)
 
peace buddy




I think the contents of groove clips are supposed to be confined to their boundaries in order to support looping, so copying notes outside those boundaries would generate a new clip since the new notes can't be looped (because they're outside the boudaries).   However, I can't recall if "regular" clips are supposed to work that way as well...
2013/07/09 16:34:46
chuckebaby
yes.
2013/07/09 17:15:32
jb101
How are you selecting the clips and bouncing them?  It seems to be working as expected  here.
 
I'm not sure what issue Charlie Roy is referring to that Cakewalk are aware of and are going to fix.
2013/07/09 20:58:53
chuckebaby
stevec
chuckebaby
Beepster
That's weird. It's worked when I've done it. Maybe try restarting Sonar then give it another shot. If it still doesn't work open a new project and make some MIDI clips and try it there. If it works in the new project something my be going wonky in your current project. It happens sometimes. Cheers.


its a strange occurrence where if you make an edit in prv on a midi clip, if you bounce the clip to a groove clip and then make another edit to the groove clip in the prv it starts another layer.
or if you have one reg. clip and a groove clip butting up against each other and try to copy a small piece of midi over the adjoining sections, it creates another layer on the same midi track, but this layer cant be expanded.
 
its a strange one  :)
 
peace buddy




I think the contents of groove clips are supposed to be confined to their boundaries in order to support looping, so copying notes outside those boundaries would generate a new clip since the new notes can't be looped (because they're outside the boudaries).   However, I can't recall if "regular" clips are supposed to work that way as well...


you are correct steve.
and the only way to make the groove clip and the new clip as one new clip together is to bounce both to clips.
and sometimes just lassoing the clip, there lays a piece hiding underneath and sonar doesn't catch both.
so when you grab that clip to move it, it leaves behind pieces of the newly edited clip.
 
2013/07/09 21:08:21
chuckebaby
jb101
 
I'm not sure what issue Charlie Roy is referring to that Cakewalk are aware of and are going to fix.




that's not what I said.
 
 
"cake already knows about it and hopefully we will see this fixed."
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