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2013/07/08 12:11:02
Beepster
This is just a completely wild guess here so please forgive me if it's way off but is there perhaps some kind of Send module/Pre Post setting that might be bypassing the Mute button automation? I can't visualize how that could happen but it just popped into my head for some reason. Cheers.
 
Edit: scook has asked my question much more succinctly. Thanks scook.
2013/07/08 12:12:05
scook
Do you have any pre-fader sends? They are not affected by automated mute.
2013/07/08 13:01:50
stevec
thebiglongy

Of course updates for older versions won't happen, Cakewalk is in the money game after all...




As is every for-profit company, obviously.   No money = no product.    Does any DAW company update older versions once a new release is available?
 
2013/07/08 13:41:53
konradh
The only sends are to the reverb and they are post-fader.  I am hearing the full signal, not just the reverb return.  Incidentally, when I use the normal (non-automated) mute, it works correctly.
 
Sorry for taking everyone's time on this.  I think it just doesn't work and could be related to VS-700.
 
Sad, because mute is a pretty basic function and it isn't like mixing to tape where you can hit the mute buttons at the appropriate times: anything that is not automated basically won't show up in the mix.
2013/07/08 14:01:51
stevec
Do you get the same results from any track using automated mute, or is it more specific?
2013/07/08 14:05:31
sharke
Do you have Guitar Rig? There must be something in there that you can use to mute the sound and which can be automated. I'm thinking the volume pedal or the gain effect or something.
2013/07/08 14:15:22
scook
Sleepy Time DSP has free Mono and Stereo Channel tools with mute buttons that can be automated, might work in this case.
2013/07/08 16:29:06
Guitarhacker
Bristol_Jonesey
Guitarhacker
Just use a volume envelope.


This has a lot of merit
 
Sometimes you simply don't want the abrupt "snap" from fully on to fully off like you get with an automated mute.
I remember one of the Bakers saying that automated mutes involve using extremely short crossfades - but in my case, when I use them, they are still too short to prevent the odd "crack" that you hear when a non-zero crossing is involved.
 
With a volume envelope, you can get as surgical as you want with your fade in/out




 
You can be surgical in the placement of the transition..... and you can make it a straight up or down slam the fader instantly or you can ease it over a few milliseconds....
 
I have found either method works and it is perfectly silent or should I say transparent? I use the volume envelope to do all sorts of things..... from the normal control of what parts are heard to muting the occasional noise, squeak of the string on an acoustic, or the bad note in the middle of a solo that works just as well muted out as opposed to fixed with a punch.
2013/07/08 16:45:47
jps
I`ve made a video snippet about automated mute .
One thing I wish for is that when you have created an automation lane and choose automated mute the 
the mute button on the track should change accordingly . Now you need to right click on the mute button and choose switch to automated mute
to see  the automated mute on/off . Maybe its just me :-))
 
http://www.screencast.com/t/iTsUF9s53AD
 
All the best
Jan
2013/07/08 17:10:34
Bristol_Jonesey
Yes, that's exactly what I'm seeing Jan - and it has never failed to work
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