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2015/03/11 19:21:35
The Metal One
Hey guys,
 
Title pretty much says it all...
If you got a few minutes, please give it a listen and let me know what you think.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUxBE5XzaZk
2015/03/15 01:39:39
The Metal One
hmm...never put a song up here that didn't get ANY feedback.
 
Not sure if that's good or bad
2015/03/15 03:38:03
kakku
Good performances. Good melody. The solo guitar was too low in volume imo. If there was a bass in there it was very quiet. How on earth you got so many views in such a short time?
2015/03/15 07:27:26
tbosco
Metal One... It's not the same in this Forum as it was a few years back.  It used to be that within an hour of posting a new song you'd have at least 10 reviews, both good and bad, and everyone gave honest feedback about mixes, tones, production, etc.  I've posted 2 songs this month and hardly received a comment.
 
That said, while this is far from my speed of music, I liked the tone of your crunch guitar.  Bass could have been EQ'd with a little more low end I think (I'm listening to little computer speakers...).  The actual guitar solo sounded a little thin to me and not beefy enough.  (Sometimes it's hard to get a good recorded distortion lead without it sounding like a bee farting in a tin can..LOL)   I didn't care for the vox.  Needs Melodyne badly on the low notes and , like my own voice, just not quite strong enough to pull it off.
 
If you were looking for musically dark, you nailed it!  Keep at it my friend!
2015/03/16 03:52:27
The Metal One
thank you both for the feedback. I appreciate it!
 
@ kakku
I'll bear that stuff in mind for the next one. It was partly because the bass was quiet, but also because the guitar had a lot of lows in it, and the bass was playing almost identical parts. It just kinda faded together. As for the views, I am trying hard to attract a following. so, when I release a new song that I think is worthy, I run a very low cost ad campaign to draw some attention and attract possible subscribers.
 
@tbosco
I'll make those adjustments while I'm working on the next song. I honestly did nothing to the lead aside from adjust the levels of it, so i'll try and develop a more powerful sound for it. Do you have any tips on how to do that? As for the vocals, for better or worse, my goal with my channel is to have my music be a 100% solo effort. I could easily find a singer to do this stuff for me, but it makes me proud to look at some of the better songs and know that it was all me. I'm far from amazing, but I've come a long way from the quality of my vocals when I first started doing this...and I'm constantly working to get better. Singing in key is the hard part, and I'm doing pretty well with that. My main issue is figuring out exactly what to do with my voice, and improving my ability to actually write vocal melodies. The screaming thing hasn't gotten the response I had hoped, so I plan to phase it out in favor of something else. Not sure what yet...
 
 
2015/03/16 13:26:16
tbosco
I have found after years of recording guitar, it's better to let the bass carry the low end and get the "meat" out of your guitar.  (unless the guitar's low end is part of the overall feel or effect of the song).  Things stay less muddy that way generally speaking.  I'm not a metal player, but I know that the dropped D thing lends itself to a little more low end on the guitar as well as some of the "metal" presets and tones on amps or processors, so.....  Gotta use your ears and decide what sounds best to you.    I know the metal guys generally don't care for mids in their guitar patches, but without some, it can get a little farty. 
 
Tell us more about how you recorded your guitar.... Processor?  Mic'd up amp? DAW plugin?  Can make a difference on advice.
 
And for vocal, singing in key is paramount priority.  Get Melodyne or something like it if you don't have it.  Keep working on your vocal... I think the more you sing, the more you will "find a voice" that works for you...develop it.
 
Cheers!
2015/03/16 23:51:19
The Metal One
I mic-ed up my amp for the guitar parts.
I just need to play with EQ stuff a little more next time to get the bass where I want it. I'm just having a hard time getting to bass to be audible, without it being too prominent.
 
I do have melodyne, by the way. I've used it on all my songs except this one. When I tried it out, there was something about it that I didn't like, so I reverted to the original recording.
2015/03/17 04:57:37
kakku
There are tools for mixing. One is
http://www.voxengo.com/product/span/
I believe it could help you. I read that the vst 2 version is better but this may have changed.
2015/03/17 09:27:40
Mesh
Hey Metal One, there's good potential in this song and I agree with what Tony says as well. The bass does need to be "phattened" up to get that clear lower end tone. When the guitar is playing, I actually couldn't tell there was a bass in the background......(listening through decent H-phones).   
If you can get a really good sound/tone on the initial recording of the tracks, then you won't have to do a whole lot of "massaging" on the track with various plugins to get it to sound the way you'd like it to be. From the get go, it should sound 90% (just a ballpark figure) to your satisfaction and THEN, use the plugins to slightly enhance/fine tune it your liking.
The lead guitar also needs beefing up (sounded very thin to my ears) and look into getting a phat tone from the get go.
Keep at it bro.....the more you work at it, the better it's going to get. 
 
 
2015/03/20 15:33:49
stevec
Just to echo the comments above - bigger bass and lead guitar tones.  
 
I would also pan the crunch guitars more left and right leaving the middle for the vocals.  And perhaps just a bit more reverb/delay on the scream vocals and the drums for more "space".
 
Good start!
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