I have some midi piano tracks with some high notes in them.  When displayed in the Staff View those notes are not displayed (they are above the top edge of the staff view window).  You can't scroll them into view.  Making the window taller does not help.  About the highest note that can be displayed is a C8 (that's C 3 octaves above middle C or 2 octaves above the C in the treble cleff staff).

Is there a way to move the staff down so that the high notes are displayed?

--Larry

And you can't enter a note higher than C8 or D8 with the pencil either.
--Larry

Hi Larry,
Writing some Maynard arrangements?

Try this: in the Staff view click Edit - Layout, then under the clef options select "Octave Treble" this should get your track notated an octave lower than it sounds. Unfortunately, I think it will apply to the entire MIDI track, so if you only need it for a section or part, it may not work. Otherwise, try the PRV for the notes you can't see in the Staff View. Not ideal, I know, but as I'm sure you know, there's a LOT that's wrong with Sonar's staff view/notation.

Welcome to the Staff View. 

This has frustrated me for years.  i would have to transpose pinao chords down and octave, edit them, and then transpose them back up.

I understand all the arguments about a sequencer v full notation, but this is clearly a simple bug a programmer should be able to fix quickly.  All that is required is resizing the window.

konradh


This has frustrated me for years.  i would have to transpose pinao chords down and octave, edit them, and then transpose them back up.

I understand all the arguments about a sequencer v full notation, but this is clearly a simple bug a programmer should be able to fix quickly.  All that is required is resizing the window.

You'd think wouldn't you? Because that would be the "expected behavior," by which I mean the way people instinctively expect software to work. I first got the feeling that the Sonar team are a bit lacking in this respect when I realized that you cannot shuffle the Multidock tabs around as needed. I mean that's how you expect tabbed windows to behave these days, right? You click and drag them into the order you want (a la the tabs in your browser etc). But not Sonar. Same feeling I got when I realized that my mouse's "back button" doesn't work in the Sonar browser, or upon seeing long menus that cannot be scrolled with the scroll wheel (the drum maps etc). I get the feeling that they're still using an outdated GUI framework (in much the same way as they're still using outdated forum software). 

Carl, Actually these are piano parts played by someone else.  If they were Maynard arrangements they'd go higher than double-high C (which is what a midi C8 is).  If I were making arrangements that I could play they wouldn't go much higher than C7.  :)

Funkybot, I tried the Octave Treble option.  It seemed to move the treble clef notes up an octave so that the highest note visible is C7.  

I'm pretty well convinced that you just can't have high notes in the staff view.  Oh well.......

--Larry

Larry,

That's way up there for sure.
I saw in in Detroit years ago, pretty amazing.
Curious, is there an 8va symbol available in Sonar?

You can enter "8va" as an Expression but it doesn't do anything.  To make the really high notes visible you could transpose the section of interest down an octave and add the 8va expression (which is how it's done in sheet music).  Transposing would cause the midi notes to be played down an octave.  But you can get around that by making a copy of the midi track (and mute it) and then do the transposing there and display the staff view based on the edited copy.  Gee, that sounds like a lot of fun.
--Larry