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2007/06/30 16:54:52
Skyline_UK
For anyone interested, Jammer have just published a new Jazz/Blues style set. I bought them and they're pretty good. Such a pity they don't issue new styles more frequently. Link here.
2007/06/30 19:35:56
riojazz
Thanks for the notice of the new Jammer styles, John.

One thing that bugs me about the Jammer/SoundTrek site is that it lists dates for updates with NO YEAR! If you don't recall exactly what version you have, you have to go deeper into the update to see whether April 17 means 2006 (it does) or 2007. That's really tacky.

I own and use Band-in-a-Box extensively as the first step in composing. I have Jammer but never use it because there are so few styles.

2007/06/30 23:24:26
SteveJL

ORIGINAL: riojazz
One thing that bugs me about the Jammer/SoundTrek site is that it lists dates for updates with NO YEAR! If you don't recall exactly what version you have, you have to go deeper into the update to see whether April 17 means 2006 (it does) or 2007. That's really tacky.


Actually, they do.

This product was added to our catalog on Friday 29 June, 2007.


Right near the Add To Cart button on each Style Pak page, though not too easy to see.
2007/06/30 23:43:43
mudgel
I have all the styles packs for Jammer as well as all the musicians packs and find that there are so many to choose from. I don't see where people say that there are so few styles.

I can edit any style or add different musicians to any set of of my choosing. Complete flexibility to me.

I can then have JAMMER compose for me and it will creat new riffs & patterns for percussion or musical instrument parts with very advanced parameters which are fully editable so that composing will take place on a loosley contrained set of parameters or very fixed ones. These can then be exported/saved as midi files and used as loops.

I actually use JAMMER to trigger SD2 within SONAR through A virtual MIDI cable. Awesome is all I can say.

I haven't used BIAB so can't comment on it.
2014/11/22 18:58:08
BENT
mudgel

It involves using MIDI YOKE to create a virtual MIDI cable between JAMMER and SONAR. This allows me to write the MIDI parts in JAMMER but play the Softsynths in SONAR just as if I used an external synth to trigger SONAR's Softsynths but as it is all in software you need a virtual MIDI cable to make the connection. Each track in JAMMER can be set to send MIDI out on any of its 16 channels via MIDI YOKE as a virtual MIDI device. I just setup SONAR with 16 MIDI tracks all set to recieve on one of the 16 channels with MIDI YOKE as its input. Then I can assign softsynths and audio tracks just Like I would with any soft synth but in this case JAMMER is the trigger via its MIDI YOKE out. Of course you have to set SONAR to recieve clock signals external and set it to play. Then go to Jammer and press play and it triggers SONAR to start playing.



Hi Michael, Recently returned to Jammer after a long stint away.
Jammer4 worked fine with Rewire in S6 but Jammer6 is a different beast, so I set up a template along the lines in your post but using “LoopBe1” as my virtual MIDI cable instead of MIDI YOKE.
 
I'm having lots of stability problems with my synths. Are you still using Jammer6 with X3e x64 or have you installed X3e x32 for stability.
 
Sorry to dig up such an old post but would appreciate your input... Thanks
2014/11/23 20:14:50
BENT
I'm assuming people are interested in this because in the 24hrs since my last post this thread has had 90 views and with more detective work I've discovered a few things that I thought I'd pass info on.
 
The stability problems I was having with my synths was because Jammer6 sending controllers and resetting synths PRG's. Interestingly this was only happening on certain syths (which is what confused me) I fixed this problem by unticking Record Controllers under /Preferences/MIDI/Playback and Recording/ in Sonar
 
The other problem I had was when I moved to Jammer6, sonar would lose focus and stop, setting MIDI sync in sonar did not change this, but I found that if I setup a one bar loop in sonar and started play, sonar would keep focus and when I moved back to Jammer6 I could still hear sonar.
 
So the good news is I can now happily work away in jammer6 with my MIDI routed into sonar and create the backing tracks I've been employed to make for my client without listening to the boring old Roland GS sounds in my Roland SC55 Sound Canvas MIDI linked to Jammer6 and then exporting a midi file into sonar then start using soft synths.
 
If anyone can add to this or suggest better ways to to achieve the above then I'm all ears
 
hth someone
2014/11/23 21:07:36
BENT
Found out some more...
Jammer6 "MFX Shell". Will only load in X3 32 bit
it wont run through bitbridge or jBridge, It will only run in 32 bit so I'll load X3 32bit with fingers crossed
 
2014/11/24 20:32:31
BENT
Using a Quad capture and an actual MIDI lead
Plug MIDI lead from the MIDI Out looped back into MIDI In.
 
set Jammer6 MIDI Out to Quad
Set X3e Synth MIDI Track input to Quad
 
Works like a charm and stable as
Forget routing to my Roland SC55 Sound Canvas
Forget Loading X3e 32bit
 
How frigen simple is that! LESS! IS MORE!
2014/11/25 00:39:23
RonCaird
I use Jammer (Ver 6) for a number of purposes.  I originally got an earlier version (4 I believe) from drums, bass, keyboards to practice guitar with.  The variety of styles and genres was useful for expanding my skills.  Then I started to use it for building bass and drum tracks for my own compositions.  Initially, back in my days using Home Studio, I would play Jammer through an external synth and record the tracks as audio in Home Studio.  As I moved up to Sonar I started importing MIDI files to trigger EZ Drummer kits and then Addictive Drums.  I still find that there are some styles where the Jammer grooves work better than the styles available in either EZD or AD, particularly swing, latin and reggae grooves.  I will also use Jammer to create bass lines when I need something more complex than my rudimentary bass playing can deliver.  I have been using Jammer for years and I am comfortable with the interface so I do like it and I have certainly gotten great value for a relatively modest investment.
 
Also, I got an e-mail from the Jammer folks a few days ago that indicated they were climbing out of the recession and were starting new development.  I don't know this for a fact, but I suspect this is a second business for some musician/programmers whose efforts were being spent keeping themselves fed, housed and healthy over the past few years.  I'm glad to see it looks as if they're back at it. 
2017/12/08 08:33:14
Snehankur
mudgel

I've emailed Soundtracks and asked about a VST version of JAMMER and they've hinted at it for the future some time but no firm commitment.

Do you still have contact with Soundtrek?
Any place I can buy Jammer 6 Pro from?
Regards
Snehankur
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