"The Final Bouncedown!" ??

Version 6 is/was no different from any subsequent versions with regard to exporting.
 
If you are hearing something different between your mix and your export (it helps to define different!) then it's either a routing problem, a selection problem or an export settings problem.
 
At a push you might be hearing very small differences with unfrozen vsti's or any other Fx which might be introducing spectral randomisation.

So you bounce-to-track the entire project to a separate track and output that to the Main to bypass your effects which are in the Master so you can check that the mix sounds the same, but it doesn't. If it did, that would be your export.
Hmm. Can you insert another Main output and try that one?
 

no, 
it's more simple than you guys are making it out to be...
this problem.....
 
 
i can bounce  to tracks by selecting "all", in the dialog box, selecting 'what you hear', and the routings are all automatic.
 
 
but what if i select "Mains" as the source?
 
 
just as if i was outputting from a mixer, to a two track tape....
i would go out of the 'MAIN OUTPUTS' on the mixer, to the tape.
 
 
so why can't i select 'mains' as the source of what i want to bounce,
and get the same mix as i get when i select 'what i hear'?
 
 
if everything i have, is sent to the master bus, and that is output to the MAIN (soundcard or interface) then that should be the final mix routed properly, correct?
 
 
everything
is routed to master buss.
 
Master buss,
is routed to mains.
 

If mixing to mains, wouldn't you then be mixing thru your RME total mix thingy in like a loop?
Maybe there is some software phasey things going on. Do you have any sends or effects active in the RME rack?
just guessing.

no, i'm just trying to get a bounce of what is going thru the master buss, 
as is heard on the Mains output.
 
i'm assuming that i can route directly from the sonar console 'mains' directly to a new stereo track during a bounce?
 
if not, why provide it as a choice of 'source'?
 
what started this, was i 'exported' the mix using both the 'what you hear' and 'mains' as the source,
and they sound different.
 
 

batsbrew
 
what started this, was i 'exported' the mix using both the 'what you hear' and 'mains' as the source,
and they sound different.
 

do they cancel with flipped phase?
 

batsbrew
what i am asking,
is what picks up the correct routing so that the bounce strictly comes from the output of the master,
or in other words,
the Mains?
 
what i don't want to happen, is anything else being included in the mixdown,
OTHER than what i am monitoring thru the master bus,
what is going to mains.
 
i've had some anomalies, where i am hearing in my final bounce,
what sounds like an extra boost in level on a particular sub buss, say, percussion,
that does not sound like what i'm hearing when i'm monitoring the mix before the bounce.
 
nothing is routed wrong,
it's all correct,
but once i do the 'bounce', i'm not hearing the playback exactly the same as i did listening to the mix pre-bounce,
and makes me think more is getting bounced than JUST the output from the master buss

I  don't know if this will help since you've stated that nothing is routed wrong, but I've had the same experience of drums (toms) being too loud, only to find that somehow the toms buss rather than the master buss was assigned as the default buss. I have no idea how that happens since I haven't switched anything knowingly.
 
As far as bouncing tracks down to a stereo track, I used to manually select only the tracks that I wanted bounced but found that simply selecting all tracks gets the same result. Midi and muted tracks will not be part of the final mix. I'm no power user, so there may be better ways to do it.

have not looked at that yet....
i'll try to bring the exported file in against the bounced inside track, and check it.
 

 

 
 I thought I'd show you my settings. Sorry I'm on a laptop at work so it's on board WASAPI mode and not exactly how it looks when you have an audio interface. 
For export I always use " SELECT NONE" as someone here a long time ago recommended that as being bullet proof over select all, Don't no why, don't care, always works. I also pretty much use the shown defaults for both track bounce and exports. Both use the "entire mix" as default and that also seems to always work. 
 
I just did the bounce and I cannot hear any difference. 
 
I think this might be something in your RME mixer set up.