• SONAR
  • enable midi out soft synth confusion (now with video comparison to studio one_ (p.2)
2013/03/27 12:06:23
stoutlyric
Having two different vst's sending midi out has never worked in Sonar.

I was trying this with LFO Tool made be the same company that does cthulu and as soon as you enabled the second vst midi out it would crash sonar. Have not tested the latest X2a patch on this one yet.

I remember a thread where a user was complainging about this back in Sonar 7.

Big win if it could get resolved!
2013/03/27 12:10:04
stoutlyric
Also to get around the limited ability of sonar routing you could use a third party tool like Bidule.  You can run it as a vst and get very complex with the routing and not be tied down by Sonar.
2013/03/27 14:32:01
swamptooth
hey bob - they sho up on the correct channels - sonar isnt discriminating the input source though. thats the catch. same results with kontakt same with beatscape same with everything. thanks stout - im already using loopmidi to control automation lanes based on the data. ptoblem is ive got a few development projects going on so i cannot use sonar as a reliable daw to test on if this functionality is impaired. pretty much stuck with cubase and studio one. they have full vst3 support anyway.  its just gonna have to suck to label sonar as incompatible with the projects if oury funding options come through at the end of the year
2013/03/27 17:42:08
robert_e_bone
Sorry, swamptooth, I am all out of ideas on this one.

Can you break stuff that's less tricky in the future?  :)

I truly do hope some of this stuff gets resolved for you.

Bob Bone

2013/03/27 20:54:00
swamptooth
bob, as near as i can tell the first problem report for this was submitted nigh 5 years ago.  everyone, including noel has acknowledged personally in the linked threads.  it's just a damned shame. it's fine, though, because cakewalk and everything else i buy are deductible. ;D
2013/03/27 21:47:11
robert_e_bone
@swamptooth Good to hear your reported it.  Sorry to see that they have not in such a long time devoted resources to addressing it.

Hopefully enough things do allow you to produce in Sonar to still make it worth your  keeping it.

Bob Bone


2013/03/27 22:43:29
swamptooth
@bob - 
yeah there are aspects of sonar that i absolutely love, and i'll continue to use it.  there is a point at which, for me anyway, the decision becomes more about business interests than brand loyalty.  i really admire you bob, because i've seen you walk through newbies and advanced users as well in a kind, non-judgemental manner.  you've been reasoned and measured and unfailingly helpful to many people on this forum.  i've learned a lot not only from your posts - but also your questions.  i've learned a lot from you here... sometimes just reading and lurking.  your consistency is something to be admired. 
2013/03/27 23:26:45
robert_e_bone
Thanks - music is like breathing to me - cannot do without it, and when I see folks struggling, I am really motivated to try to help.  I think this Cakewalk community is a collectively powerful entity, and the more we all help each other, the better we individually can become.

I know some stuff in some area, and have weaknesses in others, and this is true for us all here - I learn every day for the things I am weak in, and others learn from some of the stuff I have figured out over time as well.  The key is to try to all continue to pull together to resolve as many problems for as many people as possible.  That's an integral part of being a 'team', and as a former basketball player, I KNOW the power of teamwork.

Bob Bone


2013/06/27 20:30:46
auto_da_fe
Missed this thread originally or I would have jumped in....I think I got on the original discussion at 8.5.
 The youtube video is the smoking gun!  Great job!!
 
Just got 64 bit Catanya and it is the same thing you are all seeing 100%. 
Except when I use 2 simultaneous instances of Catanya it totally crashes Sonar.  Crashes so hard you have to restart the PC to get the stuck audio to stop.  Been doing this since 8.5 too.  Although I will say in the past it would at least play for a little while, as long as you did not touch a key or the mouse.  Now just enabling midi out on the second instance of catanya crashes sonar.
 
I also have experimented with another DAW (rhymes with creeper) and it works great. 
 
I love Sonar X2 in all other ways, but this is very frustrating as I use a lot of Vsti's now and you have to be so careful.  At one time Sonar was the chosen DAW for midi, but maybe not so much anymore ?
 
JR
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