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  • Sonar Annoyance: Split Tool and Envelopes
2013/06/25 13:42:21
sea_ferring
Can anyone explain to me the rationale behind adding a single envelope node to every track envelope every time the Split Tool is used?
 
This is a major annoyance in my workflow and in my opinion should be an option. The only way I could see this behaviour being useful is if the Cut Tool inserted two nodes instead of one.
 
I am constantly repairing my envelopes after being mutilated by the Cut Tool!
 
-mal
2013/06/25 13:48:13
John
What version of Sonar?
2013/06/25 13:54:44
sea_ferring
Currently using Producer X2 but this has been the behavior ever since I started using Sonar Home Edition (3 or 4).
2013/06/25 13:59:28
John
I must confess I would never split a clip after I used automation.
2013/06/25 14:03:20
sea_ferring
Just because it isn't in your workflow doesn't mean it isn't a valid one. I do mostly live recordings and minor edits after application of envelopes is par for the course for me.
 
This is irrelevant to the question though - why change the envelope when splitting clips. This also includes moving selections where implicit cuts are done.
 
This behavior is just silly.
2013/06/25 14:11:01
Bristol_Jonesey
Without trying to sound obtuse, what difference does it make?
2013/06/25 14:17:05
chuckebaby
Bristol_Jonesey
Without trying to sound obtuse, what difference does it make?


with out trying to sound like a knob, I had to go look up "obtuse"
cool word bj
2013/06/25 14:24:35
sea_ferring
Beyond the fact that it looks messy to my slightly OCD mind, it breaks the envelope. If I want to change my envelope I change it. If I am cutting a clip then it should have no effect whatsoever to *track* envelopes.
 
Am I making sense? All the current functionality does is force me to remove the auto-added nodes. Track envelopes are track attributes, not clip attributes. 
2013/06/25 14:42:17
John
sea_ferring
Just because it isn't in your workflow doesn't mean it isn't a valid one. I do mostly live recordings and minor edits after application of envelopes is par for the course for me.
 
This is irrelevant to the question though - why change the envelope when splitting clips. This also includes moving selections where implicit cuts are done.
 
This behavior is just silly.


That was not the point of my post. I was trying to convey the fact that I would never see this "problem". But now that you bring it up why not change your work flow?
2013/06/25 14:46:51
sea_ferring
If it made sense to change my workflow then perhaps I would, but an advanced tool like Sonar should not dictate workflow.
 
My point as made above is that modifying *track* envelopes on an action that is in clip scope does not make sense.
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