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  • So confused! JamOrigin's MidiGuitar, how to setup in Sonar.
2013/06/20 14:50:57
M_Glenn_M
Partly, or perhaps mostly, I don't understand the process of installing midi.
That said, I have been able to run MidiGuitar as a stand alone and run a synth thru it.
I also got the buffers down to acceptable delay.
Next was to do the same inside Sonar.
I copied the midiguitar folder into the VST folder
Ran Sonar and forced it to scan VSTs. No sign of it
I opened the folder and copied just the 32 bit dll into the VST folder
It shows up in the Sonar browser under VST's.
Open new job, 
In Audio channel, FX install MIDIGuitar.
Set up the MIDIGuitar to Output/Dimension LE- set to piano
Amp/Effect to None
Played notes  and get meter in the track on record mode, but only get guitar sound.
Now what?
 
 
2013/06/20 14:59:00
Beepster
Is this a hardware device or a softsynth? If it's hardware you'll probably have to go into Preferences > MIDI and enable the device.
2013/06/20 15:11:54
M_Glenn_M
No it's software, audio to midi converter.
http://www.jamorigin.com/midi-guitar/
2013/06/20 15:17:59
Beepster
Yeah, I've trying to get some info on it but there ain't much out there... their site is kind of a PITA too but this might be your problem...
 
On Windows you can install a virtual MIDI device such as loopMIDI or loopBe and use it as a MIDI bridge between MIDI Guitar and your DAW.
 
Maybe not. Only other thing I can pull out of my bum is... do you have MIDI Input Echo enabled on the synth track?
2013/06/20 15:19:20
Grumbleweed_
This is a long shot but you could try finding the device in the Plug-in Manager, click on it, click on Plug-in Properties and then tick "Configure as synth".
 
Grum.
 
2013/06/20 15:26:12
scook
There are two ways to use MIDI Guitar with a DAW.
 
One is as a VST. The method for installing and configuring as a VST is in a link in your previous thread. There were some serious problems encountered when installation was attempted. Based on the installation issues it appeared that the VST method may not work with your configuration. You can try it again if your wish. Just follow the directions in the link provided. The only part of the MIDI Guitar software that you need for the VST version in XP is the MIDIGuitar32.dll. That would go in your VST plug-in path.
 
The other method uses MIDI Guitar as a standalone program connecting to a DAW with virtual MIDI cables. Now that you have a working standalone version, there is no need to move the MIDI Guitar software. The only part of the MIDI Guitar package that you are using in this case is MIDIGuitar32.exe. To use the standalone version to feed MIDI to SONAR, you will need to install virtual MIDI cable software. Either LoopMIDI or LoopBe1, free virtual MIDI cable solutions, will work.  Once the virtual MIDI cable software is installed, the MIDI Guitar MIDI output needs to be set to the virtual cable and SONAR needs to have the MIDI cable added to MIDI Input devices. Then when a MIDI track or SIT is created in SONAR, the MIDI input needs to point to the virtual MIDI cable.
2013/06/20 15:28:17
M_Glenn_M
I did install LoopBe and it shows on the task bar (winXP) thanks.
There is nothing on the synth track but the input echo, just the Audio track.
Should there be?
As I said I'm not familiar with MIDI set up in general so that could be the issue.
What would you expect on the Audio track In and out and the MIdi in and out or other?
 
I thought the FX box which has the MidiGuitar plug on it would handle it all, including the Synth.
How should it relate to a midi track?
2013/06/20 15:30:20
scook
You need to add LoopBe1 as a MIDI device in SONAR Edit > Preferences > MiIDI > Devices
2013/06/20 15:31:25
M_Glenn_M
Oops 2 posts snuck in as i was writing this one.
I'll go thru the advice thanks
2013/06/20 15:33:35
Beepster
lol... I'm lost. Listen to scook. He's smart.
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