craigb

eph221
You've  never seen a PETA commercial.

I have.  Most of those involved are complete whack jobs (even my bud Tom Scholtz).
 

 
 

So sorry to hear about Brad Delp.  Not to be irreverent...but what did he do to his balls to sing that high?  I lived in Stockbridge Mass for years, and believe me, anyone who decides to live in New England feels like offing themselves at one point or another.  I wrote that song *Better Day* for someone who actually did.  I actually know several who have.  :(

Back in '82 or '83 I was tested and the test involved dexterity at things I had never done before in addition to questions/problem solving.  IIRC, there was even a portion that tested awareness of current events.  I scored within one answer of 140, but that might've been a metric test.   Or was it a test adapted for the military? 
 
I barely remember that test and know even less about current tests.  Common sense tells me that language and cultural differences would make huge differences in outcomes.

soens

Moshkito

smallstonefan
Craig - you are right about language bias. We have a mental acuity component in a hiring assessment we use and we always have to be mindful of the fact that if English is your second language, you won't score as high. Of course, that doesn't mean you're not as smart - in fact, we tend to round up a point or two (it's a stanine system with 9 being the highest). 
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English is my 3rd language ... so 124 means ... I'm still stupid.
 
My biggest issue is the color thing on the squares/triangles and the like, because the logic in those is not relative or completely logical, and is in fact imaginary. My issue, is that I can not see the difference in the colors and their locations, they just look to me as light and dark, and their locations, as if it were a clock, are random, not logical. A "supposition" is not "logic"! And this is where English sometimes is nutz. It helps in poetry, though!

Does this mean you'd get a different score if test is taken in a different language? Try taking a different IQ test in each language you know.
 
Then there's color blindness and other factors not necessarily taken into consideration.
 I like it when they assign IQ's posthumously.  I read somewhere that Haydn had an IQ of 170.  HAHA!
I for one put little credence in such tests. You are as smart as you make yourself or allow yourself to be.
 
One of the originators, Alfred Binet, did not believe his "psychometric instruments" could be used to measure a single, permanent and inborn level of intelligence. He stressed the limitations of the test and felt intelligence is a concept far too broad to quantify with a single number. Instead, he insisted that intelligence is influenced by a number of factors, changes over time, and can only be compared among people of similar backgrounds.
- a loose quote from https://www.verywell.com/history-of-intelligence-testing-2795581
 
For fun though, the "experts" (those with high IQs?) have put together some telling stats:
200 + Unmeasurable Genius
160 to 199 - Genius
140+ High
100 - Average
70 to 84 - Borderline mental disability
55 to 69 - Mild mental disability
40 to 54 - Moderate mental disability
25 to 39 - Severe mental disability
1 to 24 - Profound mental disability
 
So if I fail to even take the test, I have no (-0-) IQ...

Hey eph, were you afraid he might delete his post so you thought you'd quickly save it? 
 
Well, ok.  I guess he HAS done that before! 

BobF
Back in '82 or '83 I was tested and the test involved dexterity at things I had never done before in addition to questions/problem solving.  IIRC, there was even a portion that tested awareness of current events.  I scored within one answer of 140, but that might've been a metric test.   Or was it a test adapted for the military? 
 
I barely remember that test and know even less about current tests.  Common sense tells me that language and cultural differences would make huge differences in outcomes.

Indeed Bob, and also your current state of mind.  IQ isn't supposed to change from year to year, day to day.  But it does.  In fact Gabapentin (neurontin) has been proven to increase IQ by 10 points.  If IQ can change, if learning makes a difference, if drugs make a difference, if culture makes a difference etc...it's a meaningless test.  But it is used by a lot of people as a confidence booster...our public school system does a good job of making people feel stupid, so the students spend the rest of their lives in school, seeking validation.  That's great until you wake up middle aged with no job prospects and $100k in student debt.  An online IQ test is alot cheaper. :D:D

I think all you're going to get is a very rough ballpark with IQ scores. Like if that test gave me a score of 146 then I'm going to consider myself somewhat more intelligent than someone who scored 80, but I certainly wouldn't presume I was more intelligent than someone who scored 120-130. Sometimes I get the dumbest stuff wrong and have serious doubts about my ability to think. I showed signs of that when I was a kid. I remember up until the age of 5 or 6 I had the whole concept of money totally ass backwards. I thought that if something was $10 and you only had $7, then you would pay $7, get the thing and receive $3 in change. Now if that isn't a sign of abject cluelessness then I don't know what is....
 
On the other hand, a child psychologist once told my parents I was a genius. It all stemmed from when I was about 3 and announced that I was going to jump off the garden wall. My dad told me don't be stupid, you're not a bird and you don't have wings. And apparently I thought about this a while, and then replied "yes but I was a bird before I was born. I used to have wings." He mentioned this in passing to a child psychologist friend, who told him that for a 3 year old to come up with such a response, he must be a genius. Why this must be so, I have no idea and it all sounds dumb to me now. But the upshot is that the label stuck and I've been disappointing my parents ever since....

You may not have had wings before you were born, but you DID have a tail!  (It stops growing so soon that it's not normally noticeable and simply becomes your "tail" bone.)
 
So you probably shouldn't try flying, but maybe wagging is possible? 

Apparently some DO continue to grow! 

holy crap-- everyone is 140 or over, this is a smart group!!!

backwoods
holy crap-- everyone is 140 or over, this is a smart group!!!

Especially the part we sit on!