Thanks Craig.

patm300e
 
That is good news...You do an exceptional job of explaining things.  Can't wait for the book, but I realize there is a lot of preparation and arranging as well as writing that needs to be done.  I wish there was an easy chart like this:
                            IN SONAR:      In STUDIO ONE
New song              CTRL + N         Song, New Song
 
Something like this would go a long way in helping us fledgling Studio One guys.  I also realize that this would be an incredibly time consuming adventure!

 
PreSonus has reached out to me about doing something along these lines, we'll be talking about it tomorrow. Fingers crossed. They genuinely feel bad about what's happened with Cakewalk, both to the employees and the users, and want to figure out what they can do to help. 
 

That's good news in a sad time, Craig.

Anderton
 
They genuinely feel bad about what's happened with Cakewalk, both to the employees and the users, and want to figure out what they can do to help. 

When I went to the first PreSonusphere and met a lot of the people running the company and developing the software, I walked away from the event feeling like I could really hang out with these guys. They were real, down to earth type people.
 
I am on board with them. Hope they let you do the 'Sonar to S1 Conversion' video/tutorial.

Anderton

patm300e
 
That is good news...You do an exceptional job of explaining things.  Can't wait for the book, but I realize there is a lot of preparation and arranging as well as writing that needs to be done.  I wish there was an easy chart like this:
                            IN SONAR:      In STUDIO ONE
New song              CTRL + N         Song, New Song
 
Something like this would go a long way in helping us fledgling Studio One guys.  I also realize that this would be an incredibly time consuming adventure!

 
PreSonus has reached out to me about doing something along these lines, we'll be talking about it tomorrow. Fingers crossed. They genuinely feel bad about what's happened with Cakewalk, both to the employees and the users, and want to figure out what they can do to help. 
 

Craig, you may tell them tomorrow I will switch to S1 Pro on the day "Big Book of Studio One tips" is released (or "mixing and mastering in S1", whatever).

Anderton
PreSonus has reached out to me about doing something along these lines, we'll be talking about it tomorrow. Fingers crossed. They genuinely feel bad about what's happened with Cakewalk, both to the employees and the users, and want to figure out what they can do to help.

Craig, big respect to you because I was reading your SOS articles before you could even dream of getting them online so I value you wisdom and experience.
 
I've some concerns though because it seems that some are so desperate to find a replacement DAW even before we know the full picture of Cakewalk and SONAR's fate!  If you note, Customer Support has responded to my thread and we've now a dialogue going on there so hopefully we'll have some answers now sooner rather than later so until "the fat lady sings", I'm not going anywhere because there's good reason to believe it's not all over because things aren't quite as they seem.
 
That being said, I've had a play with Studio One and I didn't have a great experience so I gave up.  For some time I've had Cubase Elements because a lot of other producers use it and so that I could look at their arrangements and extract what I needed, I installed Elements which requires no dongle and it's okay but again, I don't really like the interface and workflow.
 
So far, I have to say that Harrison Mixbus looks the best I've seen because the workflow and GUI seem very similar to SONAR!  I think because I come from an old-school studio environment where I was used to Mackies, etc, SONAR resembled this well which is why I got into it and so Mixbus looks as though it's from the same school of thought so perhaps that's why I like it best!
 
Well, unlike Studio One, it supports MIDI and unlike Cubase, there's no hardware dongle required so there's two massive pluses for me.  Have you had a good look at this DAW?

RickJP909
Well, unlike Studio One, it supports MIDI and unlike Cubase, there's no hardware dongle required so there's two massive pluses for me.  Have you had a good look at this DAW?

First of all, Studio One does support MIDI. But, there are four main reasons I'll be doing more in Studio One.
 
1. No other DAW has the mastering page/song page integration. I still work on album projects from time to time and this feature is amazing. It's even useful just for making sure that individual cuts are consistent. Also the album assembly functionality, along with DDP export for CDs and digital format export for streaming, make it very convenient for publishing.
2. Because of (1), I've been using SOP in parallel with SONAR for years. So the only learning curve I need to do is for the Song page. 
3. The ARA integration is important, even though other programs have tightly integrated pitch correction, because it can do more than just deal with Melodyne (e.g., SONAR's Drum Replacer) and so there's potential for the future.
4. It's part of a developed ecosystem - controllers, interfaces, mixers, live performance, content, and integrated instruments like Presence XT.
 
I much prefer the Skylight interface look & feel, but then again, I don't like any DAW interface as much as Skylight.
 
 

Anderton
 
First of all, Studio One does support MIDI. But, there are four main reasons I'll be doing more in Studio One.
 
1. No other DAW has the mastering page/song page integration. I still work on album projects from time to time and this feature is amazing. It's even useful just for making sure that individual cuts are consistent. Also the album assembly functionality, along with DDP export for CDs and digital format export for streaming, make it very convenient for publishing.
2. Because of (1), I've been using SOP in parallel with SONAR for years. So the only learning curve I need to do is for the Song page. 
3. The ARA integration is important, even though other programs have tightly integrated pitch correction, because it can do more than just deal with Melodyne (e.g., SONAR's Drum Replacer) and so there's potential for the future.
4. It's part of a developed ecosystem - controllers, interfaces, mixers, live performance, content, and integrated instruments like Presence XT.
 
I much prefer the Skylight interface look & feel, but then again, I don't like any DAW interface as much as Skylight.

Okay Craig, yep I get the points 3 and 4.  However Mixbus is also part of a developed ecosystem which going forward appears to be important for ensuring a DAW has longevity in a modern world apparently.
 
However, regarding MIDI from what I can see Studio One doesn't support MIDI as comprehensively or natively as I'd expect it, well not like Sonar did which I find incredible really in this day and age.  Please feel free to correct me because I may be forced to finding an alternative DAW sooner than later and currently I'm struggling to find one that even ticks most of the boxes!
 
As I use hardware synths quite extensively, I do a lot of MIDI editing and automation.  I know MIDI backwards and I know most of the CC codes that I need to manipulate - hell it's a tried and tested protocol of 30 plus years so it's crazy not to have native support within the DAW!
 
From what I see, you can't import a MIDI file as such but you can drag and drop it?  Also, how about all those CCs?  It certainly doesn't seem to be able to export them or a MIDI type 1 file and this is something you'd want to do when sharing projects between DAWs so to me, features which are paramount.
 
If it wasn't for the dongle, it seems that Cubase would be my natural alternative.  I'm going to miss Sonar deeply the day it goes because there's nothing which looks as good, has such a good workflow and has so many of its features, which seem to be split up between the other DAWs around.
 
However, I will look forward to any articles which you do that feature comparisons or workarounds between how you achieve the same goals in Studio One as you would've using Sonar.
 
On that basis, Sonar was and still will be years ahead to my mind so it looks like I'll be sticking with it until the others catch up!  "Someone please save Sonar!!!"

Seems DP gets overlooked a lot - competitive crossgrade on sale now - https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DigPerf9cg

RickJP909
I know MIDI backwards and I know most of the CC codes that I need to manipulate - hell it's a tried and tested protocol of 30 plus years so it's crazy not to have native support within the DAW!

But it DOES support MIDI. The only difference is that it interpolates internally between MIDI data points to eliminate zipper noise. This is not a new concept, the Panasonic DA7 mixer did it years ago to give 1024 steps of fader resolution instead of 128. As far as you know, you're still sending in standard MIDI data, importing it, exporting it, etc. But you may scratch your head as to why there's no zipper noise when you sweep the filter in a virtual synth hosted in Studio One at high resonance.
 

From what I see, you can't import a MIDI file as such...

 
You can open MIDI files. The only thing you need to know is that if you open an SMF via the file menu, S1 assumes you are starting a song and asks if you want to import General MIDI sounds. So if you've saved a mix of Standard MIDI Files and audio files and you insist on opening instead of drag and drop, you need to open the MIDI file first to start the song, then import the audio. However you can drag and drop an SMF into a song at any time, so you can import all your audio if you want and then drag in the MIDI file.
 

Also, how about all those CCs?  It certainly doesn't seem to be able to export them or a MIDI type 1 file and this is something you'd want to do when sharing projects between DAWs so to me, features which are paramount.

 
Of course it can export CCs along with a MIDI Type 1 file. You do lose S1's internal interpolation so the host that opens it just sees it as standard MIDI, not the high-res data that lives inside an S1 song.
 
However you can't export as a Type 0 file that collapses all the data. I never use that anyway, but if you need collapsed data, you can do so inside S1 prior to exporting.
 
I recommend downloading the demo and trying it for yourself, but bear in mind that you may not find what you're looking for in the same place as other DAWs. For example, there are differences between importing using the File menu or the Song menu. Also, there's no preference for having BWFs import at their time stamp (which is why their forums don't have the kind of posts we see in the SONAR forums along the line of "I dragged in an audio clip, and it ended up an hour down the timeline instead of where I put it!! SONAR sucks!! Switching to Reaper!!"). You need to select the audio files, then choose Edit > Move to Origin to snap them into position.