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2017/12/06 02:35:30
Leee
You know, when my late wife was planning to divorce me ten years ago, I was flooded with well-meaning advice from friends, family, and people I barely knew.  And if I followed some of the advice that was offered, I would have made the situation 10 times worse for myself.   Because what was happening was people were giving me advice through their own perspective and experiences, most of which didn't apply to me.

The same thing is happening here, right now.   EVERYONE'S situation is different.  We have a range of Sonar users that are hobbyists all the way to professionals who use Sonar to make a living.  
I ran into a guy on a Facebook Cakewalk group who claimed that "anyone moving to a different DAW was never a true dedicated Cakewalk user", and that anyone "jumping ship" is a traitor.  He continued to respond that only good studio engineers and producers would know how to fix any problems Sonar might encounter in the future.

That's an example of the most ludicrous, self-centered opinion I've read so far. 
The bottom line is, each individual Cakewalk user must decide for themselves what is the best course of action.
It's okay to ask questions and give solicited advice about various options, but by NO means should one solution be applied to every single Sonar user.  And certainly no one should stand in judgement of choices being made that differ than their own.

If you want to try and get a refund, then good luck to you.  But trying to incite a lynch mob against Cakewalk or Gibson is a total waste of time.  Especially during these times where there is so much injustice in the world, you have to pick and choose your fights very carefully.   We're faced with an unexpected loss.  A loss that is very emotional that brings up feelings of losing a loved one or best friend.  A loss that could mean personal financial losses.  And a loss that is something that is almost totally out of our control.  

Do what you need to do.  If writing a letter or sending an email to Gibson or Cakewalk, relaying your feelings or requests, then do that.  But don't expect everyone to fall in line behind you just because YOU think it's what we should be doing.  Every single person has a different situation that calls for different solutions.  Once we realize that, it should eliminate a lot of the useless negativity that is flooding these forums and user groups.
 
2017/12/06 03:04:54
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Very true . . . for the most part
 
Leee
 
  A loss that is very emotional that brings up feelings of losing a loved one or best friend.   
 



It's software, get a grip. It's a piece of software, anyone who develops such an emotional attachment to a piece of software has far greater issues than the end of the line for a piece of software they use, get some perspective please. It's the same with an emotional attachment to a company, a company is a company is a company, in the end, none of them could really give a rats ar$e about you, other than getting your money. Cakewalk isn't some supernatural entity that is holy and pure, without fault or guile, they are exactly the same as any other company (generally speaking). It is this type of thinking that has got you where you are now, people have been making excuses for Cakewalk for years, letting things slide, not pushing the issues, patting them on the back and kissing their ar$e when they should have been doing the exact opposite if they wanted to show what the users really wanted. Lifetime updates, as good a value as that seemed at the time, it took away the voting power of all those (mostly long-time users) people had, and did you notice all the newbie friendly stuff that started to be put forth? (not that that was a bad idea, but not at the expense of long time users who may have wanted something else) If the long-time or advanced user who was on lifetime updates didn't like what was going on, the direction being taken, what could they do about it? they could no longer vote with their wallets, that option was taken away from them as soon as they took the life-time updates, convenient?
 
2017/12/06 06:10:34
Leee
All I know is that I'm FAR from the only one experiencing sadness and a sense of loss.
This is exactly what I was talking about.  Do whatever you want, feel however you feel, but allow others to make their own choices and feel their own emotions.
If I was the only one feeling this sense of loss, then maybe I'd go see a shrink, but from reading all the hundreds of posts here and on Facebook, it seems my feelings are shared by many other users.
Not that YOUR feelings are wrong, it's just that some people are more passionate about things.

And you're right, it is after all just a a software program.  I didn't cry or stay in bed for days after the announcement.
I'm just dealing with it.  I'm continuing to use Sonar while trying out other DAW software for the eventual switch.
If someone asks me my opinion about software or how I feel about Sonar production being halted, I'll gladly give it.
But I'm not going to say you have to do this or you should be feeling this way, etc.
2017/12/06 07:48:24
backwoods
weird that such an incredible piece off software- decades in the making- is being killed off! 
2017/12/06 10:39:20
KingsMix
Move on.
Your girl left you, took all the furniture and the food out of the fridge while you were at work,
She obviously could care less about you.
Move on.
2017/12/06 10:42:49
KingsMix
Oh yeah, and you've got a few beautiful women (Studio One/Cubase etc) knocking on your door begging to go out with you. Get over her. Move on. she's gone.
2017/12/06 13:33:17
chuckebaby
If you want to move on then go right ahead. But why even come back here to this forum ?
To tell others to "Move on" ? Help them grieve ?
 
I will keep using Sonar for now. That's the reason im still here on this forum. But if it stops working, I will switch to another DAW (and forum) in a second and never look back. But its surely not my place to tell others what to do.
 
2017/12/06 14:13:43
SandlinJohn
KingsMix
Move on.
Your girl left you, took all the furniture and the food out of the fridge while you were at work,
She obviously could care less about you.
Move on.
 
Oh yeah, and you've got a few beautiful women (Studio One/Cubase etc) knocking on your door begging to go out with you. Get over her. Move on. she's gone.



So, while you're mourning the loss of someone, you'll eagerly jump to the next? You have commitment issues, I'd say. You need your grieving period - that is how the human psyche works.

I do think you need to follow your own advice and move on. Just move on.
 
Unless you aren't done mourning the loss of SONAR. Otherwise why are you still here?
 
While we should not form quite the same emotions with software as we do with other humans, we do form an attachment. We learn the "tricks and tips" and the workflow processes. Just moving on isn't so simple as jumping to the next pretty software package. Software isn't standardized. All those tricks and tips and workflow patterns might not transfer well, if at all. The cool thing about software is that it keeps working even after it stops being a viable product.
 
I'll stick with SONAR because it isn't worth this hobbyist's time to learn a new DAW that costs a significant chunk of change, even with "Cakewalk Transfer Discounts" and potentially requires buy all my third party software all over again in a flavor that works with the new DAW, such as the ProChannel tools and the locked to SONAR add ins.
 
I'll stick with this forum, or one like it, as long as possible because this will be where the knowledge I will need will be when I try out some new tool in the SONAR tool box. I'm not headed for a new DAW, at least not yet, so I have a reason to stay.
 
You however don't appear to have any reason at all to come back to the forums other than to troll those of us working with what we've paid for already. Taunting us to get over it. Telling us to move on.
 
I am over it, already. I've made a rational decision, rather than emotional, to stay with SONAR as long as it will work. It's a financial and work styles decision, not a "I WANT MY SONAR" thing.... though I'll I'd admit I want my SONAR. I'd switch if I wasn't looking at multiple hundreds of dollars to get all the features all over again that I already have access to. I'd switch to a new DAW if learning all the things I know about SONAR for the new DAW were just a snap of the fingers. I have CuBase (twice actually), and Tracktion, and have used others in the past. They aren't SONAR, and will require more effort to learn than I'm willing to expend.


What I am NOT over is people telling me to get over it.
 
2017/12/06 14:48:27
pwalpwal
jeebuz, it's a bit of software, not a living thing!
 
these analogies are getting out of hand!!
2017/12/06 15:18:36
luizvitor89
Guys you give me wrong... I'm just asking...

I am not angry or regretful of my acquisition. I do not want a refund.
How I say: "I will continue to use as long as the operating system allows."

I wanted information.
Like the Overloud announciment: overloud.com/news/overloud-welcomes-cakewalk-customers

I want to know if you have some notice to Lifetime holders.

Answser is: No!?

Ok, alright.





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