Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]

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Danny Danzi
P.S. I dig the tech tips...keep including them whenever you can! One suggestion if I may..
 
Quite a few of the tech stuff, videos etc, all seem to cater to dance oriented type stuff or groove stuff or some sort of option. It would be really great to see tips and trick on really processing audio related projects instead of loops, grooves, beats, matrix. All that is great...but I see more of that than anything else.
-Danny

Other styles would be refreshing.

What did you have in mind?

I think Danny and Beepster are on target. Working with live audio or if I can be lazy and just quote Danny again:

Danny Danzi
Some heavier stuff would be appreciated...rock, metal, country, pop, nu-breed, classic rock, dealing with vocals, high gain guitars, back up vocals, production tricks with effects, bringing out drum sounds, you get the idea

This might be a good topic to for the other thread and lock this one

Should just hire Danny to do a series alongside one of the Bakers. Danny + Brandon?

Actually who's the jazz fellow up in the ranks? There was a vid posted of him playing his guit in some cafe. Danny and that guy.
 

1. Sorry I asked for the survey to be "leaked". But I am an X2a customer (one of the first actually) so all is not lost.
 
2. Jimmy Landry would be a good guy to demo a mixing session for non-electronic music- wasn't he a mix engineer before he joined Cakewalk? Doesn't need to be all guitars all the time either. I'd like to see "Reverb treatment of Vocals" for instance, or "masterbus EQ on three different mixes".

Beepster
@Danny... Yes, we definitely need some more raw audio manipulation techniques. Even looking up manual entries I try to find stuff pertaining to things I need to do only to find that it is all geared toward looping and MIDI. That's great and all but I have dozens of hours of audio recordings that need some TLC.
 
Good to see you, man.

Beepster,  I also have hours of tapes, 8 tk, 4 tk and stereo that need to be re-mastered.  Most of my 8 tk reel tapes were recorded on location at various night clubs around Seattle in the 70s and 80s of two bands I was involved with.  To be able to sort for audio only in help or the online docs would be very useful.

Hahaha you know me, I'd be up for it. :) I don't think Brandon will be doing anymore of the vids because he's with Roland now, isn't he? Thanks Beeps!
 
Andrew: I'm just sort of trying to feed your head with the tech stuff. Maybe I type so much all the time, you may have missed the suggestions I made. LOL! Sorry for being so wordy.
 
"Some heavier stuff would be appreciated...rock, metal, country, pop, nu-breed, classic rock, dealing with vocals, high gain guitars, back up vocals, production tricks with effects, bringing out drum sounds, you get the idea. This can be applied to whatever style of music you want. I just think we've sort of exhausted the whole loops and fake instrument side of Sonar. It would be nice to see some real audio handled."
 
Meaning both "heavier" processing tricks as well as "heavier" music. It would be nice for our users to see/hear how to work with certain instruments using Cake effects, examples and procedures. We have quite a bit of a classic rock/hard rock/metal user base. We have quite a few country guys too that are into the "now sounding" country production. Quite a few questions get asked about drums, guitars, bass, vocals. In these styles of music, the instruments are treated differently. I think it would be great to see some of this as opposed to constant dance/groove/matrix oriented stuff.
 
Examples: "Here's a guitar sound along the lines of Steve Vai. With the ProChannel, using this that this and this along with some of our own effects chains, this is how we would tweak this tone and why."
 
"Problems with high gain guitars? No problem for Sonar X935!: You could be using more gain than you need. You could be using more low end than is needed. How to compress properly....what constitutes THIS compression on this instrument."
 
"Bass guitar sounds lifeless.....here's how to process it in Sonar using this that this and this"
 
"Drum track processing: In this example, we have recorded a drum kit in Sonar. These are some of the things you can expect and we used this that this and this to process them....here's what it sounds like."
 
"Vocals sound small? Do you have a nasal voice? Vocal strip can fix you along with this that this and this to further enhance your vocal tracks! Compression...too much and not enough"
 
"Building backing vocals: Techniques, harmonies, when to double...the affects of doubling, when to verb, when not to, light chorus, how to compress"
 
"Parallel compression: Do you need it? Weigh the options. Here are 2 different ways it can be achieved using Sonar X25 by using PC or creating sends"
 
"Are keys wrecking your powerful mix? Let's control them and decide whether they should be focal instruments or backing instruments. Here's how to process for both scenarios"
 
Stuff like that could really be helpful in my opinion, Andrew. It allows people to learn how to listen as well as a few ways to experiment and get the best out of audio using Sonar. :)
 
-Danny

Danny Danzi
Hahaha you know me, I'd be up for it. :) I don't think Brandon will be doing anymore of the vids because he's with Roland now, isn't he? Thanks Beeps!
 
Andrew: I'm just sort of trying to feed your head with the tech stuff. Maybe I type so much all the time, you may have missed the suggestions I made. LOL! Sorry for being so wordy.
 
"Some heavier stuff would be appreciated...rock, metal, country, pop, nu-breed, classic rock, dealing with vocals, high gain guitars, back up vocals, production tricks with effects, bringing out drum sounds, you get the idea. This can be applied to whatever style of music you want. I just think we've sort of exhausted the whole loops and fake instrument side of Sonar. It would be nice to see some real audio handled."
 
Meaning both "heavier" processing tricks as well as "heavier" music. It would be nice for our users to see/hear how to work with certain instruments using Cake effects, examples and procedures. We have quite a bit of a classic rock/hard rock/metal user base. We have quite a few country guys too that are into the "now sounding" country production. Quite a few questions get asked about drums, guitars, bass, vocals. In these styles of music, the instruments are treated differently. I think it would be great to see some of this as opposed to constant dance/groove/matrix oriented stuff.
 
Examples: "Here's a guitar sound along the lines of Steve Vai. With the ProChannel, using this that this and this along with some of our own effects chains, this is how we would tweak this tone and why."
 
"Problems with high gain guitars? No problem for Sonar X935!: You could be using more gain than you need. You could be using more low end than is needed. How to compress properly....what constitutes THIS compression on this instrument."
 
"Bass guitar sounds lifeless.....here's how to process it in Sonar using this that this and this"
 
"Drum track processing: In this example, we have recorded a drum kit in Sonar. These are some of the things you can expect and we used this that this and this to process them....here's what it sounds like."
 
"Vocals sound small? Do you have a nasal voice? Vocal strip can fix you along with this that this and this to further enhance your vocal tracks! Compression...too much and not enough"
 
"Building backing vocals: Techniques, harmonies, when to double...the affects of doubling, when to verb, when not to, light chorus, how to compress"
 
"Parallel compression: Do you need it? Weigh the options. Here are 2 different ways it can be achieved using Sonar X25 by using PC or creating sends"
 
"Are keys wrecking your powerful mix? Let's control them and decide whether they should be focal instruments or backing instruments. Here's how to process for both scenarios"
 
Stuff like that could really be helpful in my opinion, Andrew. It allows people to learn how to listen as well as a few ways to experiment and get the best out of audio using Sonar. :)
 
-Danny

Cool. We got a guy here who is definitely into heavier music that might be able to put together some tips for you. Also have you checked our Norman Matthew's blog on blog.cakewalk.com? He's been doing tips and his music is def heavier. Thanks for the suggestions, these are great!

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Beepster
@Danny... Yes, we definitely need some more raw audio manipulation techniques. Even looking up manual entries I try to find stuff pertaining to things I need to do only to find that it is all geared toward looping and MIDI. That's great and all but I have dozens of hours of audio recordings that need some TLC.
 
Good to see you, man.

Beepster,  I also have hours of tapes, 8 tk, 4 tk and stereo that need to be re-mastered.  Most of my 8 tk reel tapes were recorded on location at various night clubs around Seattle in the 70s and 80s of two bands I was involved with.  To be able to sort for audio only in help or the online docs would be very useful.

Although a filter would indeed be handy it wouldn't help much when the entries are non existent. I'm trying to think of examples but my mind is kind of elsewhere at the moment but I've gone to the index looking for specific stuff and checked all entries only to find that each one has nothing to do with audio. Only electronic type stuff. I know the functions can be done as I've seen tuts on the subjects or just muscled through the problem on my own but it's daunting at best. The manual is definitely geared more toward the electronic side of things.
 
Oh well.

@Danny... Yeah, wishful thinking on the Brandon thing. I'd like to see more stuff with Seth too as his vids not only taught me a lot his tut on using SD3 is what pushed me over the edge to actually buy X1. Even if they don't work for Cake directly anymore it'd be cool to maybe contract them to put together some vids with someone like yourself. We've had Craig and Karl do stuff and of course Scott kind of writes the official unofficial manuals. Just think due to the enormous flexibility in the program the more angles the better... and there definitely needs to be something for us rock guys and heck... the country, jazz, blues, chamber music, throat warblers, experimental fart orchestra, etc guys.
 
;-)
 

Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]

Danny Danzi
Hahaha you know me, I'd be up for it. :) I don't think Brandon will be doing anymore of the vids because he's with Roland now, isn't he? Thanks Beeps!
 
Andrew: I'm just sort of trying to feed your head with the tech stuff. Maybe I type so much all the time, you may have missed the suggestions I made. LOL! Sorry for being so wordy.
 
"Some heavier stuff would be appreciated...rock, metal, country, pop, nu-breed, classic rock, dealing with vocals, high gain guitars, back up vocals, production tricks with effects, bringing out drum sounds, you get the idea. This can be applied to whatever style of music you want. I just think we've sort of exhausted the whole loops and fake instrument side of Sonar. It would be nice to see some real audio handled."
 
Meaning both "heavier" processing tricks as well as "heavier" music. It would be nice for our users to see/hear how to work with certain instruments using Cake effects, examples and procedures. We have quite a bit of a classic rock/hard rock/metal user base. We have quite a few country guys too that are into the "now sounding" country production. Quite a few questions get asked about drums, guitars, bass, vocals. In these styles of music, the instruments are treated differently. I think it would be great to see some of this as opposed to constant dance/groove/matrix oriented stuff.
 
Examples: "Here's a guitar sound along the lines of Steve Vai. With the ProChannel, using this that this and this along with some of our own effects chains, this is how we would tweak this tone and why."
 
"Problems with high gain guitars? No problem for Sonar X935!: You could be using more gain than you need. You could be using more low end than is needed. How to compress properly....what constitutes THIS compression on this instrument."
 
"Bass guitar sounds lifeless.....here's how to process it in Sonar using this that this and this"
 
"Drum track processing: In this example, we have recorded a drum kit in Sonar. These are some of the things you can expect and we used this that this and this to process them....here's what it sounds like."
 
"Vocals sound small? Do you have a nasal voice? Vocal strip can fix you along with this that this and this to further enhance your vocal tracks! Compression...too much and not enough"
 
"Building backing vocals: Techniques, harmonies, when to double...the affects of doubling, when to verb, when not to, light chorus, how to compress"
 
"Parallel compression: Do you need it? Weigh the options. Here are 2 different ways it can be achieved using Sonar X25 by using PC or creating sends"
 
"Are keys wrecking your powerful mix? Let's control them and decide whether they should be focal instruments or backing instruments. Here's how to process for both scenarios"
 
Stuff like that could really be helpful in my opinion, Andrew. It allows people to learn how to listen as well as a few ways to experiment and get the best out of audio using Sonar. :)
 
-Danny

Cool. We got a guy here who is definitely into heavier music that might be able to put together some tips for you. Also have you checked our Norman Matthew's blog on blog.cakewalk.com? He's been doing tips and his music is def heavier. Thanks for the suggestions, these are great!

I have to check that blog out!!
 
But defo in Danni as well!!