2013/06/06 09:45:21
Guitarmech111
Anyone tried to create any dubstep with X2?
 
I wanted to play around with it to see if I could create  some drops and patterns.
 
Thoughts??
2013/06/06 14:59:48
Dave Modisette
Friends don't let friends play around with Dubstep.  
2013/06/06 15:45:54
SF_Green
You should do a search.  There was a thread on this ~ 2 months ago asking pretty much the same question that got a fair number of responses.  Great opportunity to check  out the new search function!
2013/06/06 17:01:59
Spencer
many useful things for dubstep in sonar, including going crazy with your filters with the automation lanes and envelope shaping tools, creating heavy drums with the transient shaper and tube leveler then setting up parallel compression with the pc76, and coming up with some unique filter transitions with Rmix. load a bunch of distortion, saturator, delay, chorus/flanger and reverb effects in a FX chain and setup some macro knobs that can easily cause severe chaos. sonar is definitely under-rated in the electronic music scene imo. it's missing more advanced samplers and drum players compared to other daws, but having kontakt and battery or equivalent powerhouse third party instruments makes that a non-issue.
2013/06/06 18:02:19
dubdisciple
X2 is more than capable of making dubstep or any other kind of music. A full featured sampler or drum sampler capable of stacking samples without writing SFZ files would certainly help, but it makes up for that deficiency by including synths that are very useful for dubstep. 
2013/06/06 18:50:15
forkol
Spencer
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it's missing more advanced samplers and drum players compared to other daws, but having kontakt and battery or equivalent powerhouse third party instruments makes that a non-issue.



True Dat!  I put in the survey that a simple sampler like Ableton's (Sampler or even Simpler) and a quick sampler mapper, and a fix to the loop editor to easily split and assign slices, warp audio, an put slices to pads with some basic effects and editing would be all I need.  They were kinda headed in that direction with Beatscape and Dropzone, but kinda left both unfinished.
 
But, with Komplete (especially Ultimate) I don't lack much, but I still think Kontakt is overkill for simple stuff.  I'm probably going to look at something like Slicex if it goes on sale again.
2013/06/07 06:44:12
Guitarmech111
Thanks y'all
 
I wonder what Billy would do?
2013/06/08 07:58:52
RickJP909
Hi.
 
I've seen similar posts about if Sonar is suitable for other EDM styles such as Trance, etc & I've answered yes!  If you like Trance then Ilan Bluestone is a classic example of someone who uses Sonar & that's 8.5 Pro, not even X1 or X2 yet & I quote him as he's at the top of his game ATM!
 
So I think the answer is certainly yes for 8.5 Pro & above.  I'm also in agreement with what others have said on this forum & that is the fact that Sonar has always seemed to have been regarded as the poor relation.
 
Lots of EDM producers use Apples Logic, Cubase & even Ableton.  I can also tell you that I know producers who use Logic & Cubase who suffer some annoying & quite serious bugs which even cause their programs to crash out!  To date, I've not had any of these stability issues myself but I know Sonar isn't perfect but I'm not aware of the bugs I've seen in Logic or Cubase.  Apart from them being more expensive, I personally don't understand what it is that makes others use it over anything else?  I'd actually like someone to name some amazing feature that would make me switch DAWs but someone has yet to demonstrate that to me.
 
Anyway, I personally think it's how you use the tools & not necessarily what tools you use, as I saw someone demonstrating how to do certain types of vocal chops on Apple's Logic which I'd never seen a demonstration of using Sonar & guess what, I tried it with Sonar (exact same techniques) & it worked a treat!  I also used V-Vocal to play with it (which Logic or Cubase don't have) & that worked better than what they were demonstrating as I managed to make it sound natural!
 
I expect within reason, that whatever DAW you choose, the main limitation these days is the processing power of your computer or your imagination & I can say this as I come from the bad old days of tape & analogue sequencers where these technologies presented huge limitations, not only in creativity (sequncing was very limited & laborious) but massive quality & noise issues were the norm with multi-track tape.
 
Lets all celebrate modern electronics & computing as it became a dream come true for me when I could do all this from a desktop computer & in full 24-bit audio quality!
 
Cheers guys!
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