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2013/06/03 16:16:38
garrigus
Beepster
Oh and if I really need to get at my onboard sound it's only a couple clicks away VIA the control panel... well, God Mode actually. Much quicker than the standard 7 way. 
Hey Beepster...


Oh, no... I didn't mine was the only way. That's just what has worked for me. If having everything routed through your interface works for you, that's excellent.


I know that other people have had trouble with Windows interfering with the sample rate/bit depth when it plays audio through the interface because they were recording projects with different settings. That's one of the main reasons I keep mine separate.


Scott

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2013/06/03 16:22:22
Beepster
Interesting. Hadn't heard about that one but I'll be keeping an out for it. Not sure why Windows would try to default to something else if everything else is disabled but then again I pretty much only use this system for audio. Maybe certain programs get confused when trying to deal not so onboard sound devices. Anyway... hope you have been well Mr. Garrigus. ;-)
2013/06/03 19:00:28
robert_e_bone
Hey Beepster, 

I have gone back and forth with disable/enable on-board sound.  I currently run with it disabled, so that my audio interface handles all audio in Windows, period.  Please note that for me I made this change a long long time ago, in a galaxy far away.

At the moment, I only have one set of speakers that are worth plugging in, unless I want to break out the gigging gear PA speakers - which I believe is a bit of overkill for just wanting to play some Carpenters song while sequencing up some drone bass track in Sonar.  So for me, I just run things separately - I do not fire up WMP if I have things to do in Sonar.  

On the other hand, getting some cheap desktop speakers for $20 would allow me to actually benefit from having the ability to run  all kinds of different audio programs.  (I have a program called the Amazing Slow Downer, which is a fabulous program for slowing songs down without changing pitch, for learning complex or fast technical parts of tunes I want to cover - I could decode a clip in that program and go sequence up the parts immediately in Sonar by adding the desktop speakers - DOH - another trip to Radio Shack or Best Buy tonight).

I DID learn to silence the Windows bodily function noises (startup, shutdown, sun's coming up, I hit too many keys, I didn't hit enough keys, etc.).  I treated a rather large audience to an EPIC volume level of the Windows XP startup sounds once on a gig.  That cured me.

Bob Bone

2013/06/03 19:33:03
Lanceindastudio
Me too 

I turn off Windows sounds, but I keep the on board sound card active and run WMP and Windows audio though it.

I started doing this because when I would bring up Youtube or WMP while sonar was on, and having everything going through my audio interface I would get sample rate problems, slowing down the playback time in Sonar until I closed both and Opens up Sonar only.

With a separate sound card for WMP and everything not DAW, I never have that problem, I can reference things while SONAR is on in WMP or online, etc., which is very useful sometimes.

Lance
garrigus


Beepster
Oh and disable windows sound or any other sound devices on your system. Use the 1010 exclusively for recording purposes or whatever interface you are trying to use. 
Actually, I find it better to keep the built-in PC soundcard activated. I then assign that to Windows and use my audio interface exclusively for audio software. That way, Windows doesn't try to interfere with the audio interface. Plus, I can still use Windows Media Player and other Windows software that requires audio output.


Scott

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* Author of the Cakewalk Sonar and Sony Sound Forge Power book series: http://garrigus.com/?PowerBooks
* Author of the Cakewalk Sonar ProAudioTutor video tutorial series: http://garrigus.com/?ProAudioTutor
* Publisher of the DigiFreq free music technology newsletter: http://digifreq.com/?DigiFreq
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2013/06/03 19:43:15
John
I use Scott's setup. 
2013/06/03 20:49:07
jb101
I use Scott's setup, too.
 
I can have Windows sounds, tutorial vids, background music etc. through one set of speakers, and just switch the speakers off with one button if I'm tracking.  It has worked well for me here.
2013/06/03 22:14:11
mudgel
The important thing is to disable Windows sounds in your main audio device as Windows sounds are 16 bit/44.1khz amd Windows will reset Sonar to that by default and youll constantly be wondering why Sonar wont play 24 bit audio or anything other than 44.1 sample rate.
2013/06/04 02:36:45
raumfisch
garrigus


Beepster
Oh and disable windows sound or any other sound devices on your system. Use the 1010 exclusively for recording purposes or whatever interface you are trying to use. 
Actually, I find it better to keep the built-in PC soundcard activated. I then assign that to Windows and use my audio interface exclusively for audio software. That way, Windows doesn't try to interfere with the audio interface. Plus, I can still use Windows Media Player and other Windows software that requires audio output.


How would I do that with Win 7?
I may sound noobish, but I am not able to figure that out atm ...


2013/06/04 02:53:08
scook
Leave the internal soundard setup as the windows default with Control Panel > Hardware and Sound > Sound right-click on speakers and set as default device. Then configure the DAW audio interface in the DAW. At least, that is what works for me in Win7. I also disable the OS sound effects Control Panel > Hardware and Sound > Change system sounds select "no sounds" from sound scheme drop down.
2013/06/04 16:49:55
Beepster
Good info in here. I guess I've never encountered these types of issues on the new system because it is pretty much used exclusively for Sonar but I do seem to recall a couple instances early on where my samplerate/bit depth seemed to have changed for no reason so I probably played something in WMP or whatever and it forced the Scarlett to comply. Didn't think that would be possible without my intervention.
 
In general anything I need to do that does not involve Sonar gets done on my laptop and if I need to hear audio in any kind of superior quality I just plug in my studio cans to that. I will be keeping all this in mind for the future though. Particularly if I am trying to listen to product demos through my monitors on the big system. Cheers.
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