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bz2838


All my waves V9 plugs work in X1 with no problems, use them all the time

There are certain plugins/features which you have overlooked as already mentioned in this thread. Morphoder does not accept MIDI input. Nor the Waves Surround Plugins. The C6-Sidechain feature does not work nor the Vocal Rider. There are others. Waves have documented this on their site.
http://www.wavesupport.net/Objects/Images/Product%20Info/Supported_Hosts_Charts/V9_pc.html

 
 
You're right, guess I better jump on the VST3 bandwagon, get with it Bakers!

Jonbouy


Do we even know if VST3 support isn't going to be included yet?

nope, we dont.. so this entire thread is "much ado about nothing" :)

Yes, it's documented on the Cake site that VST2 does support side chaining, however, waves VST2 versions Do not. Vocal rider in Sonar will Ride the Vocal as per your target dbs, But without VST3 the Music can't be sidechained back in to Further ride the vocal when the music goes up and down. Still have to go back and do automating to compensate for the music. Also, I use Vienna Ensemble 5/MIR (Best orchestra mixing software on the planet... Holy Crap!! Love it), Don't like sonar's vst2 limitation of 16 midi channels. Still have 8 more channels in MIR24 have to work around with Event inputs and such. I now I'm finding out Waves surround plugs aren't compatible in Sonar. Honestly, Vienna makes the MOST stable software I've EVER used. Their customer support is AMAZING. AND best of all, THEY (as apposed to other software companies) support their products and the Professionals that use their products,and they update FREQUENTLY, AND listen to their customers. I'm going to write and BEG them to go ahead and make the full DAW. Listen to the MIR demos, look at the site. Vienna Suite is all 64bit precision mixing/mastering tools as well. Sorry, getting off topic, still peeved at the LACK of X1 support, and how it was abandoned and just left BROKEN and Buggy in the Bakery. Don't like being screwed as a customer. That will come back and bite Cake in their proverbial ass. As for VST3, no brainer, MUST HAVE, will have... if not in Sonar, another software company.

Mystic38

Jonbouy


Do we even know if VST3 support isn't going to be included yet?

nope, we dont.. so this entire thread is "much ado about nothing" :)

Indeed...

Blogman


Yes, it's documented on the Cake site that VST2 does support side chaining, however, waves VST2 versions Do not. Vocal rider in Sonar will Ride the Vocal as per your target dbs, But without VST3 the Music can't be sidechained back in to Further ride the vocal when the music goes up and down. Still have to go back and do automating to compensate for the music. Also, I use Vienna Ensemble 5/MIR (Best orchestra mixing software on the planet... Holy Crap!! Love it), Don't like sonar's vst2 limitation of 16 midi channels. Still have 8 more channels in MIR24 have to work around with Event inputs and such. I now I'm finding out Waves surround plugs aren't compatible in Sonar. Honestly, Vienna makes the MOST stable software I've EVER used. Their customer support is AMAZING. AND best of all, THEY (as apposed to other software companies) support their products and the Professionals that use their products,and they update FREQUENTLY, AND listen to their customers. I'm going to write and BEG them to go ahead and make the full DAW. Listen to the MIR demos, look at the site. Vienna Suite is all 64bit precision mixing/mastering tools as well. Sorry, getting off topic, still peeved at the LACK of X1 support, and how it was abandoned and just left BROKEN and Buggy in the Bakery. Don't like being screwed as a customer. That will come back and bite Cake in their proverbial ass. As for VST3, no brainer, MUST HAVE, will have... if not in Sonar, another software company.

+1

Blogman


Yes, it's documented on the Cake site that VST2 does support side chaining, however, waves VST2 versions Do not. Vocal rider in Sonar will Ride the Vocal as per your target dbs, But without VST3 the Music can't be sidechained back in to Further ride the vocal when the music goes up and down. Still have to go back and do automating to compensate for the music. Also, I use Vienna Ensemble 5/MIR (Best orchestra mixing software on the planet... Holy Crap!! Love it), Don't like sonar's vst2 limitation of 16 midi channels. Still have 8 more channels in MIR24 have to work around with Event inputs and such. I now I'm finding out Waves surround plugs aren't compatible in Sonar. Honestly, Vienna makes the MOST stable software I've EVER used. Their customer support is AMAZING. AND best of all, THEY (as apposed to other software companies) support their products and the Professionals that use their products,and they update FREQUENTLY, AND listen to their customers. I'm going to write and BEG them to go ahead and make the full DAW. Listen to the MIR demos, look at the site. Vienna Suite is all 64bit precision mixing/mastering tools as well. Sorry, getting off topic, still peeved at the LACK of X1 support, and how it was abandoned and just left BROKEN and Buggy in the Bakery. Don't like being screwed as a customer. That will come back and bite Cake in their proverbial ass. As for VST3, no brainer, MUST HAVE, will have... if not in Sonar, another software company.

Hey Blogman (and others),

thanks for making me listen, and go do some reasearch.

Like I said, it doesn't affect me right at the minute, but I totally see your point and I'm convinced.
I think VST3 support really does need to be a priority, and I see exactly why it's so irritating for any of you with plugs that require it for certain features.

It would be at least nice to know it's coming, but I understand the frustration when there's just no word on it whatsoever.

Here's hoping there's maybe another surprise feature coming in X2 ... since for now, we can only hope.

Thanks guys, you've enlightened me :-)


Cheers - Cliff

chefmike8888

LANEY


VST3 is important!

Don't you mean:


VST3 is important! ...?

  Sorry Freddie, I couldn't resist.  


Mike

 
Its okay Mike but you have a point. It is important!
 
It's irrelevant if Cakewalk or anybody else feels that the new format doesn’t bring any new to the table.
 
VST3 is here and it's here stay, period!
The fact is that there are numerous plugins that do support it already any many plugins new functionality need VST3 support. That should be enough making Cakewalk add VST3 support to add these functionality to the program.
 
So yes, adding VST3 to SONAR X2 is essential!

 
 

munmun


I bought Waves Vocal Rider and then realized that it does not work in Sonar because of lack of VST3 support.  I want it!

Good example why need of adding VST3 to SONAR X2 is essential

anotherzen

Blogman


Yes, it's documented on the Cake site that VST2 does support side chaining, however, waves VST2 versions Do not. Vocal rider in Sonar will Ride the Vocal as per your target dbs, But without VST3 the Music can't be sidechained back in to Further ride the vocal when the music goes up and down. Still have to go back and do automating to compensate for the music. Also, I use Vienna Ensemble 5/MIR (Best orchestra mixing software on the planet... Holy Crap!! Love it), Don't like sonar's vst2 limitation of 16 midi channels. Still have 8 more channels in MIR24 have to work around with Event inputs and such. I now I'm finding out Waves surround plugs aren't compatible in Sonar. Honestly, Vienna makes the MOST stable software I've EVER used. Their customer support is AMAZING. AND best of all, THEY (as apposed to other software companies) support their products and the Professionals that use their products,and they update FREQUENTLY, AND listen to their customers. I'm going to write and BEG them to go ahead and make the full DAW. Listen to the MIR demos, look at the site. Vienna Suite is all 64bit precision mixing/mastering tools as well. Sorry, getting off topic, still peeved at the LACK of X1 support, and how it was abandoned and just left BROKEN and Buggy in the Bakery. Don't like being screwed as a customer. That will come back and bite Cake in their proverbial ass. As for VST3, no brainer, MUST HAVE, will have... if not in Sonar, another software company.

+1

Good example again...

Not to mention Anatares (who Still hasn't made their 'flagships' AT7 and Auto tune Evo 64 bit yet) recently added Auto tune live which says...."Auto-Tune Live includes RTAS, VST and Audio Unit versions. VST and Audio Unit versions are 64-bit compatible. The VST versions require a host that supports VST3"