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  • X2 A-Update--> 2012-18-12...2013-06-04 and still no new B update? (p.15)
2013/06/04 02:45:19
Glyn Barnes
jsg


gcolbert


78% of all 'bugs' are simply the result of ignorant users who have failed to read the instructions.
10% of 'bugs' are the result of the end user having a different idea of how a feature should have been implemented than the software designer specified in the functional specifications.
7% of 'bugs' are the result of improperly applied configuration or interaction with third party components that do not match the API specifications.
5% of 'bugs' are actually software nor performing as designed. 
  
 
Glen
And how do you arrive at such precise numbers? Did you do a study?  Did you read a study?  What give gives you confidence the above numbers are realistic or accurate?  
  

 


They are not accurate, or that are accurate for one partcular study on on piece of software. However the four catagories are spot on. In my experience, (I am not talking about Sonar or any other DAW) the second one is the major factor. The number of reported "bugs" that can be attributed to the first three on the list far exceeds number of actual cases of the software not preforming as designed.
2013/06/04 02:56:15
Freddie H
chefmike8888


Jlien X


GIM Productions

The Cubase's GUI (especially the mixer)is done on Pokemon style 

+1 to the Cubase looks like Playschool designed the GUI thing. lol


Mike

That's the beauty with Cubase 7. You can color it to own liking + faders and all buttons. You can color the GUI interface in any color RGB scale.  

 
I will go with a dark arrange background and more dark bluish mixer not shown in that picture . Check this video how the interface can look like.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmPWiA7tRX8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6ZILLBcVNs
 
 
 
Video: Cubase 7.0.0-   The GUI and mixer page has been update to the better since that release still nice interface. I think you get idea. Today update is 7.0.4-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhmBPayocVg
2013/06/04 03:05:49
joden
Been in Cakewalk since the year dot!!
chuckebaby


John


Its called Play List and is used to automatically load projects one after another for playback.



holy swift, ive never even heard of this, I feel like a noob / knob.  :)
 
thanks john


2013/06/04 03:15:17
Freddie H
GIM Productions


Sorry Freddie....I am very satysfied with Sonar X2 Pro,i don't wanna talk of tech stuff but....The Cubase's GUI (especially the mixer)is done on Pokemon style......please....How much does to salary the head of the graphics?????Best

I'm glad you like SONAR X2. I'm not saying SONAR X2 is bad either. I just feel that Cakewalk - support are not there, no interest of making new things.
I also need more functions and features like VST3, Better mixer in scale of large project, Advance automation, MIDI Function, Audio editing etc.. not included in SONAR X2.
 
 
 
We all know how "takelanes" work in SONAR X2...

 
 
 
Have you seen "takelanes" and comping made in Cubase 7? Sweet!
This video is in Cubase 6.5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1wJCvjPsNA
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Check out making vocal harmonies. in Cubase 7. I have Melodyne too.  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTn0LLmVFzY
 
2013/06/04 03:17:56
Freddie H
bobgassert


A friend of mine who uses Pro Tools was looking over my shoulder the other day and commented how clear and detailed the Graphics on Sonar X2 was ... He tells me all the time that the only reason he uses Pro tools was .. That was what he learned on in College

Agree. The GUI of SONAR X2 is just sweet. One of the best in the industry. Not the color skin though.
 
Its pity that they locked all the colors and have a whole setting page of COLOR that doing nothing in "Preference"? That also show the lack of interest not taking away the settings that don't work in "preference" either. A shown of negligence. Same goes with other settings.
 
2013/06/04 03:58:12
GIM Productions
I'm very sorry Freddy,but i don't understand this difference from Sonar's take lines.I do everything!!Rec,split,crossfader,volume,gain,VVocal,all in take lines with any single problem.Warning!!!I'm not a Cake seller,it's only my experience,maybe my system is blessed!Best
2013/06/04 04:33:08
Freddie H
GIM Productions


I'm very sorry Freddy,but i don't understand this difference from Sonar's take lines.I do everything!!Rec,split,crossfader,volume,gain,VVocal,all in take lines with any single problem.Warning!!!I'm not a Cake seller,it's only my experience,maybe my system is blessed!Best

Ok
 
Great that it work for you. Have a great day!
 
 
Best regards
Freddie
2013/06/04 04:47:16
Freddie H
Freddie H


X2 A-Update--> 2012-18-12...2013-06-04 and still no new B update?
There are no excuse that we need to sit and wait for a simple  "fix - problems" update so long. I use SONAR X2 in m daily job, a tool for me making music and productions. X2a okay stable but all other DAWs are that too like Cubase, Logic, Samplitude. I wouldn't expect less from a professional DAW program... or isn't SONAR X2 that? 
 
Still I have found "bugs" /problems still no one seem to care to fix them at Cakewalk? Cakewalk use to be fast on sending out update not slooooooooooowwwwwww as today. I really like that. Also they use to add new things, listing on the customers. I will soon leave this boat if this pattern continue.
 
 
 
Best regards
Freddie
 


Without to speculate, at the present time 2013-06-04 there has not been a single new update of SONAR X2 for over half year / 6month?  No official response from Cakewalk or any sign of interest of holing on to their customers... 


Best Regards
Freddie
2013/06/04 07:35:22
icontakt
Freddie H

We all know how "takelanes" work in SONAR X2... 

 
    

This actually looks beautiful (although the even numbers a missing like Studio One and the buttons on the strips aren't placed very neatly).
Well, I have no comments to make on Cubase because I've never used it, but it must be a great daw because many users use it (just like any other daws). 

What I don't like about Sonar's GUI is that the Control Bar and the console strips (wide mode) are a little too big for my laptop. Also, the background text color of track names can't be changed. 

Anyway, if you're happy with Cubase 7, that's great. Congratulations!
But if one day you want to come back to Sonar, don't hesitate. We'll give you a warm "Welcome back, Freddie!" (if we're still here)

Just be careful not to lose your iLok. I'll be careful not to lose mine for Nexus.

Best wishes


2013/06/04 08:15:07
timboe
Hi Freddie

I haven't been around for a while as I too have left  " sonar-land " -  but I have stayed with StudioOne  - my reasons were a bit different and built up over time:-

- Hardware Control -> ACT is the worst most un-user friendly tool in the history of DAW - from memory it was first in Sonar 4 [ or thereabout ] and has had the sum total of absolutely no improvements since then .... seriously, for those of you that don't believe me, d/l the S1 demo, spend approx. 90 seconds reading the Control Link how-to and then use it ... you will literally cry with joy

- the increasing " propriatization "  of tools  ie: Pro Channel  [ and some other EFX ] are deliberately  not available as a VST so controlling them in any sensible / easy / quick way is impossible

 - the Roland buy-out has not improved CW's products - as Roland always has done and always will do - they " orphan "  their own products in record time - the poor people who jumped on the VS700 with Sonar 8 .... then in no time X1 comes out and the VS700 surface is effectively abandoned .... that takes some serious disdain for your clients .... Rolands business model has always been   " develop-make-sell-orphan "  in as short and profitable a time as possible

- the audio engine .... damn this was annoying ....... up to Sonar 8.5.3 the audio engine got better .... heaps better ..... then with X1 something very wrong / bad happened ... rather than re-write from the ground up for the new GUI sub-system they just bolted-on  the new GUI to the old foundation .... result ..... the unmitigated disaster that was X1 .... and that has only barley improved with X2

- gapless audio engine .... once you use it, you will never go back ....  CW should be embarrassed about this ....enough said

- key people seem to no longer be here [ CW ]  but either gone or absorbed by Roland ..... I bailed about  7 / 8 months ago and come back from time to time and this forum has become a  CW-free zone ... like everything else, you should only ever judge a company by what they do, not what they say ...... and in the last 6 - 8 months  there has been neither.

My new DAW is far from perfect ... it too has many, many  issues ........ in terms of bells and whistles, Sonar leaves it in the dust .... but for sheer rock solid performance and user-friendliness its no contest.

Tim
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