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  • X2 A-Update--> 2012-18-12...2013-06-04 and still no new B update? (p.7)
2013/05/30 19:23:34
SteveStrummerUK
Keni


BTW...
 
Happy (belated) Birthday Steve... Did you actually just celebrate 51?
 
Don't worry... I doubt you'll catch up to me too fast as I'm more than 10 years farther gone! ;-)
 
Keni
 

 
LOL - cheers Keni
 
And yeah, 51 it is!
 
Although I find acting like a petulant teenager helps me to feel a lot younger
 
 
 
2013/05/30 20:15:36
John
Happy Birthday from me too.  Have a great and wonderful day!
2013/05/31 03:37:51
Bristol_Jonesey
SteveStrummerUK


Keni


BTW...
 
Happy (belated) Birthday Steve... Did you actually just celebrate 51?
 
Don't worry... I doubt you'll catch up to me too fast as I'm more than 10 years farther gone! ;-)
 
Keni
 

 
LOL - cheers Keni
 
And yeah, 51 it is!
 
Although I find acting like a petulant teenager helps me to feel a lot younger
 
 
 


Hey, have a great one Steve - I might be able to hear the party from here......
2013/05/31 03:40:15
Bristol_Jonesey
BROKENDAW


here is a test for the so called x2a debate.
 get your best client in the studio, throw down a killer track then
go to any buss, click on the pencil tool now draw a line on a volume level'
 after it chrashed and your client left , post on how great cakewalk is and how where all just not as pro as the guys who spend hours on workarounds ,and then use vvocal and leave it on your trach without bouncing, sorry cakewalk i love you and x1 but x2 is junk and if your going to waist time on a forum praising at least have the facts its broken, but yes iv got threw projects since i know the tricks but com on, the pencil  buss crash is just sad.and i know i just opened the door to the love anything cake crew,and PC not working in anything but x2 is even more sad, not even x1??is just unbelievable, they made it like they make video games for kids. payed updates and just wait till next year .i want to thank the forum for prasing them till they just release junk.and you love it. and the sadest fact is i love x1 and use it every day. but that dont mean i want to marry them and give them 1/2 my money. its a daw nothing more. ok a very nice daw. thats x1 my friends back to rockin my daw. lata


Great username bit of a giveaway really. You should have thought about that before trolling
2013/05/31 04:01:56
Skyline_UK
Danny Danzi


J4R10 


.....Let me let you and everyone else in on a little secret...
 
Because the Bakers DO read this forum, the person that cries out like a human being in a thread just MAY get the attention of a Baker that sends you a PM. I can't tell you how many times that has happened to me as well as my friends on here. Do you think they would waste their time on a hot-head that isn't even willing to try to discuss/work out the problem on the forum? I know I wouldn't if I were them. Kindness as well as patience goes a long way on this forum with both its members that CAN help you as well as the support that hangs behind the scenes. 
 
-Danny
Just to endorse Danny's comment just there.  It was only a few months ago that Noel Borthwick the CTO contacted me via PM after a post here and we had prolonged email exchanges whilst he endeavoured to understand and fix a particular issue with me, sending me numerous custom builds until things were fixed.  The correction was then rolled into an up-coming patch.  I found that to be extremely good customer service, bypassing as he did the formal processes.  Yes, sometimes I wish there was a bit more communication from the bakery folks but that's the way they do things and all in all I believe they still have a very strong product and I use it everyday with no colossal problems, just one or two irritations.
 
John 
2013/05/31 08:51:56
Dave Modisette
rabeach


I mean no offence to anyone and without a doubt it is my on ignorance of working in this field but this has been gnawing at me for a while. Why do any of you allow your clients to watch you work. What is to be gained by that? I do electrical and security design work mostly for the DOD and I would never allow them to watch me work. I prepare for any and all meetings with them and ready myself to handle any and all criticism of my work in a diplomatic manner, which means with the DOD I'll do it the way you want it done. But I can't imagine allowing anyone to watch me work. Now that being said I have been put under the microscope upon rare occasions in meetings and been forced to design on the fly in front of high-ranking personnel. 

I want them to see how totally amazing I am.  
2013/05/31 09:01:47
Dave Modisette
BROKENDAW


here is a test for the so called x2a debate.
 get your best client in the studio, throw down a killer track then
go to any buss, click on the pencil tool now draw a line on a volume level'
 after it chrashed and your client left , post on how great cakewalk is and how where all just not as pro as the guys who spend hours on workarounds ,and then use vvocal and leave it on your trach without bouncing, sorry cakewalk i love you and x1 but x2 is junk and if your going to waist time on a forum praising at least have the facts its broken, but yes iv got threw projects since i know the tricks but com on, the pencil  buss crash is just sad.and i know i just opened the door to the love anything cake crew,and PC not working in anything but x2 is even more sad, not even x1??is just unbelievable, they made it like they make video games for kids. payed updates and just wait till next year .i want to thank the forum for prasing them till they just release junk.and you love it. and the sadest fact is i love x1 and use it every day. but that dont mean i want to marry them and give them 1/2 my money. its a daw nothing more. ok a very nice daw. thats x1 my friends back to rockin my daw. lata
I can't reproduce your crash and I'm drawing volume moves on several busses in realtime during playback.  Therein lies the problem with a lot of bugs, what is it about your hardware and your plugins that is different than mine.  I have a feeling that you are using more real time tempo based VSTis, maybe.  I'm more of an audio guy with VSTis that emulate physical instruments like drums and classic types of keyboards.

2013/05/31 09:27:09
stuhldreher
If I may chime in, this is not a ‘NA NA NA NA (sing it like a spoiled little brat) response only to have someone respond with ‘don’t let the door hit you on the way out’. I simply wish to express an adult point of view with no other motive.  I too am in the process of migrating to another DAW simply because I want to spend my precious time in front of my workstation being creative and not being frustrated with none functioning software  Yes it may be something in my setup, and probably is, but more importantly for me  I keep coming back to two facts.  1.) Cakewalk is now owned by a cooperation that considers it to be another piece of their corporate puzzle 2.) Sonar is a legacy system so it has all the trappings of previous versions it needs keep around.  I’ve been a user for well over ten years.  I’m moving to a DAW that is built on relatively new coding methods that is fast with fixes and for me just works. Maybe someday it will be in the same boat that Sonar is in today, if so I’ll look elsewhere as well.  Thanks..
2013/05/31 10:11:26
spacey
Many views are that one should be willing to spend a great deal of time and effort trying to solve and correct
problems that shouldn't be there in the first place.
If the problems are bugs then one should learn workarounds and/or wait for a fix or just take the monetary loss
and go spend more money on different software that may or may not perform either.

It's so bad that people with those views believe it to be "normal" or just the way it is.

My problem is that I haven't bought into that line of thinking. Due to the fact that it is a hobby and I don't have to rely on it
I'm not forced into spending my time and effort into dealing with it.

I don't see it that many users are just complaining or trolling. I see it that there are many people that expected things to work
and they don't. Maybe they didn't realize that they would have to invest so much time learning how to troubleshoot, deal with
problems, learn workarounds or wait for fixes- because after all...that is not the "normal". With most things people get what they pay for; get a working replacement or get a refund. Since that doesn't apply in this field it has resulted with a lot of very unhappy users and a lot of people selling software that isn't required to work for everyone or at all. Once you buy it, it's your problem. Well that's the way I see it based on all the money I've invested within the last twenty years.

So I'm back to square one...waiting for the day that it will work and I can be a recording musician instead of a repair tech.....now where's my
wallet and how lucky do I feel?





2013/05/31 11:48:36
brconflict
Mod Bod


rabeach


I mean no offence to anyone and without a doubt it is my on ignorance of working in this field but this has been gnawing at me for a while. Why do any of you allow your clients to watch you work. What is to be gained by that? I do electrical and security design work mostly for the DOD and I would never allow them to watch me work. I prepare for any and all meetings with them and ready myself to handle any and all criticism of my work in a diplomatic manner, which means with the DOD I'll do it the way you want it done. But I can't imagine allowing anyone to watch me work. Now that being said I have been put under the microscope upon rare occasions in meetings and been forced to design on the fly in front of high-ranking personnel. 

I want them to see how totally amazing I am.  

haha! But seriously, being a Mix engineer isn't a magic show. It takes good ears, and although sometimes you can work faster without the client present, when you're working major-label gigs, be assured that not only will you have multiple egos in the room, you're likely to have label suits on their mobile phones watching, too. It's a very common thing, actually. I'm a Network Engineer by day, and I can say that not only does that job benefit from the client NOT being in the room with me, they get bored very easily. 
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