I guess "Classic" DAWs are a little like "Classic" motorbikes.

While some like the "Classic" appeal of tinkering and pressing buttons getting their classic bikes to go I personally prefer to jump on my modern bike and just ride it. Bit like the DAW really, I just like to start work rather than pressing buttons to get it to work. Each to their own though........

Here's a link to a video where you will see that he recently switched to Presonus Studio One because Cakewalk has elected to cater to the preferences of fewer and fewer customers, year on year, for the past few years. Mr. Kruger spent a few years asking why Cakewalk messed up the PRV tool, and finally, like so many of us, he went off and found alternatives.

While he obviously knows his stuff, I see nothing there that can't be done just as easily within Sonar and I'd argue with a more pretty interface although that is of course subjective.

I have no idea how Studio One works but I do know that in Sonar as soon as one switches back to the track view there's no need to swap tools to edit within that. If Studio One works that way as well I'd say that just further supports what a great idea a smart tool is, regardless of which program it is in. If it doesn't I'd say Studio One is missing a trick.

Pick your tool and learn it well would seem to be the way to go rather than fighting something that obviously doesn't work for you.

How come there aren't any killer PRV composing videos showing how slow SONAR X is?

I've got better things to do personally but maybe there's a future video in there somewhere.

mike_mccue









The folks that have applauded the devolution of SONAR do seem very happy. 








Personally, I like the option of pressing S, E, and D etc. and knowing exactly what tool I'm using and having that tool stay in it's selected state no matter how casually I position the cursor. That is a classic work flow that is likely to be around for a long time.

You dont need to use the smart tool. 
You can still press a button to choose the tool you want. F5-F10 selects the different tools. 
The smart tool is an option, and I like it because it suits my workflow very well.

Sonar 4 the classic edition? That is the first I've heard of it. I have heard of Sonar 4 because I have it. 

So he went to Studio One when Sonar 5 came out because he didn't like the smart tool? Is that true Mike? Its funny because it was Sonar 7 when CW introduced enhanced MIDI tools in the PRV. It was Sonar 8 when CW brought us the Free Edit tool (the precursor to the Smart tool). Oh I remember now it was Sonar 8.5 that you think is the best ever Sonar. It also had an enhanced free edit tool.

Funny Studio One came out in 2009 Sonar 5 came out in 2005.  

Sonar 4 the classic edition? That is the first I've heard of it.

 
That's because according to Mike, SONAR 8.5 is (and has been) the true classic edition.  Period.  But now I'm not sure how that works if everything after v4 began the PRV's downhill slide.   It's very confusing to us mere mortal X series users.  
 

I like pressing D for draw and E for erase. 

S for select works real good too.

That system works so good I haven't seen a need to change it.

That's odd, because on my system D Expands/Collapses the Multidock, E Bypasses All Audio Effects and S Splits Selected Clips at Now Time, and this is their default function, I haven't changed a thing

While Presonus is a great piece of software its Interface is very dull and boring. Would anyone else agree on that? 

I'm infatuated with the smart tool...and for me the X series is Sonar Classic.

While I liked Cakewalk pre X I really really disliked my mismanagement of all the floating windows. Used to drive me nuts.

Regards,

mmorgan


I'm infatuated with the smart tool...and for me the X series is Sonar Classic.

While I liked Cakewalk pre X I really really disliked my mismanagement of all the floating windows. Used to drive me nuts.

Regards,

+1  - agreed!

fitzj


While Presonus is a great piece of software its Interface is very dull and boring. Would anyone else agree on that? 

I'll chime in and agree to that.