Beepster


Oh and if you can automate the tuning knob within BFD that might get you close. Not sure if that's possible though.

Yeah you can utomate the tuning knob and every other knob in BFD2 (as well as BFD Eco) but for some reason once the note has been hit 
it doesn't seem to be effected by the tuning. I can see the tuning dial moving in BFD2 but nothing happens.
I posted on the BFD2 forum so maybe there is a way that someone knows of.


I think BFD2 files are standard wave files but I don't now if dimension pro can do the kind of velocity laying that would be needed and yes,
it's fart too much effort for me to find out since right now I don't have any songs that are crying out for a peddled timpani 


Steve

Huh... I wonder if they make completely different samples for different tunings and only use slight digital pitch increases in between those increments. I'd imagine that would serious bulk up the sample folder though. I'd be curious to hear the answer on that if you get one. Cheers.

timpani

twaddle

Beepster


Oh and if you can automate the tuning knob within BFD that might get you close. Not sure if that's possible though.

Yeah you can utomate the tuning knob and every other knob in BFD2 (as well as BFD Eco) but for some reason once the note has been hit 
it doesn't seem to be effected by the tuning. I can see the tuning dial moving in BFD2 but nothing happens.
I posted on the BFD2 forum so maybe there is a way that someone knows of.


I think BFD2 files are standard wave files but I don't now if dimension pro can do the kind of velocity laying that would be needed and yes,
it's fart too much effort for me to find out since right now I don't have any songs that are crying out for a peddled timpani 


Steve

If you open the timpani sfz file in dimension pro with notepad you will see there are actually 18 different pitched timpani flac samples. If bfd2 has only one sample I doubt that you will get a similar result. 

If you open the timpani sfz file in dimension pro with notepad you will see there are actually 18 different pitched timpani flac samples. If bfd2 has only one sample I doubt that you will get a similar result. 

Assuming those 18 samples you're referring to are velocity layers (and I'm pretty sure they are) then BFD2 has 96 of them although with some of the expansion packs "platinum samples for instance" 
that can be as high as 256 samples/layers.

That's why BFD2 sounds so much better to my ears 


Steve

no they are 18 different pitched samples not velocity layers. D2, D#2, E2, F2, F#2 etc.

BFD2 has 96 of them although with some of the expansion packs "platinum samples for instance"  that can be as high as 256 samples/layers.

Some of those layers had to be processed to derive their volumes I find it hard to believe a drummer was able to hit a drum during a recording session with 96 differentiated forces. But if proven otherwise I'm on board. :-)

I'm thinking maybe they had one of their pros just sit there tapping away and they used some kind of analyzer to pick out which hits most accurately reflected the velocity they were going for. Then perhaps adjust them a bit if needed but from most of what I've read those guys are pretty hardcore about getting things perfect and pure. It's funny watching the credits on some of those sample packs. Reminiscent of game production credits.

One option is to bounce the whole track to audio, get rid of everything but what you want to manipulate and then use V-Vocal to make the tuning go up. It may work and you could use your preferred sound. You would just have to delete the midi notes so they don't work against each other. Also, Always clone your midi track so you can always go back if need be.

Beepster


I'm thinking maybe they had one of their pros just sit there tapping away and they used some kind of analyzer to pick out which hits most accurately reflected the velocity they were going for. Then perhaps adjust them a bit if needed but from most of what I've read those guys are pretty hardcore about getting things perfect and pure. It's funny watching the credits on some of those sample packs. Reminiscent of game production credits.

I have used Angus's products for many years and I have found them to be excellent I just don't own BFD

Ah I see, I don't know if any of the BFD2 samples are pitched differently. I might make enquiries on that one.
BFD claim to have the least amount of processing in their sampling but on occasions I guess it has to be done.

Beaper, you quite right, you must have seen the video The Making Of BFD2  I think they talk about how they did the layering.
I'd like to see one on the making of the platinum sample kits since they're the ones who have up to 256 layers.

I guess if the drums were recorded at different pitches then the pitch control might work they way I would want.

Steve