Hi everyone,
 
I've been using X1 for all of my studio work but have now decided to move s l o w l y into X2. There have been issues but I've worked through them and haven't had massive problems... until now.
 
I'm running two Delta 1010s. One the full version with breakout box and the other is the 1010LT.
 
In X1 I was able to record 16 ins without hassles using both cards. In X2 however, the 1010 full version records perfectly but the 1010LT seems to have a massive distortion on it. What makes it even more complicated is that sometimes the recording starts out perfectly but as the track goes on it seems to slowly get more and more distorted that by the end of the track it is completely unlistenable. It's almost as if the driver is letting go as the track proceeds.
 
This happens on 1 track. 2 tracks or eight tracks but all on the 1010LT. It sounds like a driver issue but the drivers are exactly the same for X1 and X2. If I make changes to SONAR's setup (unchecking 64 bit double precision engine) then it works for a while but the problem does come back.
 
I've changed settings, buffers, bit rates etc but nothing seems to make any difference.
 
This has become highly irritating, especially when I have clients sitting with me.
 
If anyone else has had this problem and managed to resolve it please let me know.
 
I'm running a quad core computer with 6Gb of RAM. 4 hard drives.
 
Cheers,
 
Peter.
 

have you tried reinstalling the drivers, just to make sure ?? do you have the x2a patch installed ??? it might be worth a bash reinstalling x2 as well, are you cool with clean installs ?? are you running both x1 and x2 64 bit/32bit ??

Chregg


have you tried reinstalling the drivers, just to make sure ?? do you have the x2a patch installed ??? it might be worth a bash reinstalling x2 as well, are you cool with clean installs ?? are you running both x1 and x2 64 bit/32bit ??

Hi Chregg,
 
I reinstalled drivers, X2 with the patch. They are clean installs as well.
 
Cheers,
 
Peter.

1.  Can you configure Windows so that your interface is the default device for playback and recording, and then play a couple of tunes through Windows Media Player and post back on the results?  If THAT still sounds bad, then there is likely a driver issue between the interface and Windows itself.

2.  IF the above plays cleanly, try setting the interface to a Sample Rate of 44100 and an ASIO Buffer Size of 128, (if they use a different method for the buffer you may need to pick something like number of samples or something like that, and if so try to pick something that has a latency of less than 9 ms).  

These settings are for initial debugging purposes, and if all ends up working you can try to improve performance, but I am just suggesting these as a starting point while getting it to at least sound cleanly.  

SO, one the interface settings are made, PHYSICALLY cycle the interface, by turning it off and back on.PLEASE NOTE here that Sonar should NOT be running while you are doing the stuff in step 2.  

3.  Once the above is completed, fire up Sonar and go to Preferences>Audio>Playback and Recording, and select ASIO as the Driver Mode, then click Apply.

4.  Now, go to Preferences>Audio>Device Settings, and make sure that the Sample Rate is set to 44100 and click apply.  Make sure your playback and recording timing masters are set appropriately and note the latency values reported at the bottom.  (I would like you to post those values to this thread, as well.

5.  In Preferences>Audio>Devices, you should see your 1010LT present.

6.  OK, so now start a new project, using the Normal template.  Insert an audio track, select the audio track by clicking on the number of the track at the far left side of the track in the track pane.  Once it is selected, it should highlight the track.  Right-click on the track and insert the same song you had earlier played through Windows Media Playerr.  Sonar will import the music file to the audio track, and this will take a little time.  Once that completes, simply hit play or hit the space bar to begin playback, and post back to this thread on how the playback sounds.

7.  IF the audio rack plays back normally, you should be ready to rock and roll in Sonar.  If, on the other hand, things are NOT yet working, please post that back, so that we can look at some other ways of getting this working for you.

Thanks for your patience in running the above, I am just trying to go back to the basics to see what happens.

Bob Bone

robert_e_bone


1.  Can you configure Windows so that your interface is the default device for playback and recording, and then play a couple of tunes through Windows Media Player and post back on the results?  If THAT still sounds bad, then there is likely a driver issue between the interface and Windows itself.

2.  IF the above plays cleanly, try setting the interface to a Sample Rate of 44100 and an ASIO Buffer Size of 128, (if they use a different method for the buffer you may need to pick something like number of samples or something like that, and if so try to pick something that has a latency of less than 9 ms).  

These settings are for initial debugging purposes, and if all ends up working you can try to improve performance, but I am just suggesting these as a starting point while getting it to at least sound cleanly.  

SO, one the interface settings are made, PHYSICALLY cycle the interface, by turning it off and back on.PLEASE NOTE here that Sonar should NOT be running while you are doing the stuff in step 2.  

3.  Once the above is completed, fire up Sonar and go to Preferences>Audio>Playback and Recording, and select ASIO as the Driver Mode, then click Apply.

4.  Now, go to Preferences>Audio>Device Settings, and make sure that the Sample Rate is set to 44100 and click apply.  Make sure your playback and recording timing masters are set appropriately and note the latency values reported at the bottom.  (I would like you to post those values to this thread, as well.

5.  In Preferences>Audio>Devices, you should see your 1010LT present.

6.  OK, so now start a new project, using the Normal template.  Insert an audio track, select the audio track by clicking on the number of the track at the far left side of the track in the track pane.  Once it is selected, it should highlight the track.  Right-click on the track and insert the same song you had earlier played through Windows Media Playerr.  Sonar will import the music file to the audio track, and this will take a little time.  Once that completes, simply hit play or hit the space bar to begin playback, and post back to this thread on how the playback sounds.

7.  IF the audio rack plays back normally, you should be ready to rock and roll in Sonar.  If, on the other hand, things are NOT yet working, please post that back, so that we can look at some other ways of getting this working for you.

Thanks for your patience in running the above, I am just trying to go back to the basics to see what happens.

Bob Bone

Hi there Bob,
 
Thank you for your help. I'll need a bit of time in trying this but I will get back to you asap.
 
Cheers,
 
Peter.

I don't know if any of the info in the links below will help, but I did find some discussion on multiple Delta cards.

Some of these posts from the following links are old, but maybe some of the info is still helpful:

http://forum.cakewalk.com...mpage=1&print=true

http://forum.cakewalk.com...mpage=1&print=true

http://www.homerecordingc...amp;id=11997&frm=5

http://www.soundonsound.c...rticles/pcmusician.htm



Bob Bone

Try opening Sonar in safe mode and play the project without any effects and see what happens.

robert_e_bone


1.  Can you configure Windows so that your interface is the default device for playback and recording, and then play a couple of tunes through Windows Media Player and post back on the results?  If THAT still sounds bad, then there is likely a driver issue between the interface and Windows itself.

2.  IF the above plays cleanly, try setting the interface to a Sample Rate of 44100 and an ASIO Buffer Size of 128, (if they use a different method for the buffer you may need to pick something like number of samples or something like that, and if so try to pick something that has a latency of less than 9 ms).  

These settings are for initial debugging purposes, and if all ends up working you can try to improve performance, but I am just suggesting these as a starting point while getting it to at least sound cleanly.  

SO, one the interface settings are made, PHYSICALLY cycle the interface, by turning it off and back on.PLEASE NOTE here that Sonar should NOT be running while you are doing the stuff in step 2.  

3.  Once the above is completed, fire up Sonar and go to Preferences>Audio>Playback and Recording, and select ASIO as the Driver Mode, then click Apply.

4.  Now, go to Preferences>Audio>Device Settings, and make sure that the Sample Rate is set to 44100 and click apply.  Make sure your playback and recording timing masters are set appropriately and note the latency values reported at the bottom.  (I would like you to post those values to this thread, as well.

5.  In Preferences>Audio>Devices, you should see your 1010LT present.

6.  OK, so now start a new project, using the Normal template.  Insert an audio track, select the audio track by clicking on the number of the track at the far left side of the track in the track pane.  Once it is selected, it should highlight the track.  Right-click on the track and insert the same song you had earlier played through Windows Media Playerr.  Sonar will import the music file to the audio track, and this will take a little time.  Once that completes, simply hit play or hit the space bar to begin playback, and post back to this thread on how the playback sounds.

7.  IF the audio rack plays back normally, you should be ready to rock and roll in Sonar.  If, on the other hand, things are NOT yet working, please post that back, so that we can look at some other ways of getting this working for you.

Thanks for your patience in running the above, I am just trying to go back to the basics to see what happens.

Bob Bone

Hi Bob,
 
I've carried out all the settings that you suggested but there's no improvement.
 
I must just clarify that it's not the playback thats giving the problems, it's the record but only on the 1010LT.
 
What even makes it more complicated is that when playing back the recorded file it will start off absolutely clean but then as the file progresses it will get more and more distorted.
 
If you can send me your email add I'll email you an mp3 of the problem file.
 
ps I did try to pm you but your inbox is full. 
 
Cheers,
 
Peter.

I cleared out a few message from my inbox, and I sent you a PM with my contact info.


I will monitor emails/PM's/cell for the remainder of the day today.


Bob Bone
    

When is the last time you defragged your HD? Is it nearly full?