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  • X2 64bit TTS1 Synth not working out of the box (p.2)
2013/05/28 08:04:26
yawningjaws
phrygiann


Set your sample rate to 44.1khz.

from Sonars own help documentation


TTS-1 DXi does not support 88.2 kHz sample rate
The Cakewalk TTS-1 soft synth supports 44.1 kHz, 48 kHz, and 96 kHz sample rates, but not 88.2 kHz. The audio engine will not engage if SONAR is configured to use a sample rate of 88.2 kHz while TTS-1 is loaded and connected.

2013/05/28 08:05:39
yawningjaws
You must be running Sonar in 32bit mode and not 64bit as you stated tts1 is working

From Sonars own help Documentation it is clear 32bit Dxi's are not supported in Sonar x64

So are you running in Sonar x32 bit mode?

The following features are not supported in SONAR x64 at this time:

ReWire support for 32-bit clients like Project 5 v2, Reason, and Fruity Loops.


32-bit DirectX plug-ins.


DreamStation DXi2.


MPEX time/pitch stretching. A 64-bit library is not available for the MPEX time/pitch stretching algorithm, so this feature is not supported in SONAR x64. Use iZotope Radius or SONAR's internal time/pitch stretching instead.


Apple has yet to release QuickTime for Windows x64, so QuickTime import/export is not yet supported



synkrotron


Actually, I'm talking crap. I just turned on my laptop (I'm at work atm) and I realise now that TTS-1 is a DXi.

I have a test project, created because I have recently upgraded to Windows 8 and I have inserted an instance of every synth I have, including the freebies, just to make sure everything is working okay. TTS-1 does work, though I will never use it.

Also, I didn't even install Pentagon this time round because, as great a synth as it is, and I do miss its vocoding capabilities, I got fed up with the Run as Admin trick.



2013/05/28 08:19:48
synkrotron
LOL, you really had me worried there dood haha.

I'm running Sonar X2 (X2a build 351) x64

That's 64bit.

Furthermore, I have just looked at the plugin properties in the plugin manager and TTS-1 is 64bit.

So, are you running 64bit?
2013/05/28 08:33:33
yawningjaws
Yes I am running 64bit and if TTS is 64 bit and you are getting it working then it is back to the drawing board for me because, while it operates the sound is weird, like digital to analogue signal is corrupted in some way. it is not jittering or any of the other things associated with latency and buffer settings etc. Maybe I will record and example and post
synkrotron


LOL, you really had me worried there dood haha.

I'm running Sonar X2 (X2a build 351) x64

That's 64bit.

Furthermore, I have just looked at the plugin properties in the plugin manager and TTS-1 is 64bit.

So, are you running 64bit?


2013/05/28 08:41:18
daveny5
TTS-1 works fine in X1 and X2 64-bit. 

Are you using ASIO driver mode?  What bit depth and sample rate are you using? TTS-1 definitely works at 24 bit, 44.1KHz. Try those if you're not already using them. 

Is the RD700 your audio interface? If so, make sure you don't have any other audio interfaces selected in Preferences-Audio. 


My guess is you're sending MIDI to the RD700 and its not set in General MIDI mode and that's why the voices aren't correct. Set the output of the MIDI track to the TTS-1. 
2013/05/28 09:24:09
yawningjaws
No offence intended, but I do think you need to read the thread more carefully. Much of what you ask is already covered and your guess is right off the mark, it is not an incorrect voice issue. the signal is corrupted in some way (though new to the forum I am not new to basic daw setup and have used previous versions of Sonar including X1)
Output is going to the TTS1 of course. I have use this instrument plenty in previous versions with no issue.
daveny5


TTS-1 works fine in X1 and X2 64-bit. 

Are you using ASIO driver mode?  What bit depth and sample rate are you using? TTS-1 definitely works at 24 bit, 44.1KHz. Try those if you're not already using them. 

Is the RD700 your audio interface? If so, make sure you don't have any other audio interfaces selected in Preferences-Audio. 


My guess is you're sending MIDI to the RD700 and its not set in General MIDI mode and that's why the voices aren't correct. Set the output of the MIDI track to the TTS-1. 



2013/05/28 10:13:04
robert_e_bone
synkrotron


Actually, I'm talking crap. I just turned on my laptop (I'm at work atm) and I realise now that TTS-1 is a DXi.

I have a test project, created because I have recently upgraded to Windows 8 and I have inserted an instance of every synth I have, including the freebies, just to make sure everything is working okay. TTS-1 does work, though I will never use it.

Also, I didn't even install Pentagon this time round because, as great a synth as it is, and I do miss its vocoding capabilities, I got fed up with the Run as Admin trick.
Hi - If you were having to right-click on the icon and then tell it to run as admin, that would certainly become a giant PITA.  

If you right-click on the icon and click on Properties, then on Advanced, you will see a check box that if checked will ALWAYS have Sonar run as administrator, once you OK your way back out of Properties after checking that Run as Admin box.  That way, every time Sonar runs, it will be as admin, and you will no longer have to worry about it.  (giving you back the cool stuff from Pentagon).
I hope that helps.

To yawningjaws: I believe something in the way things are set up is causing these problems for you, as TTS-1 works for the other poster in this thread, and it works for me as well.  (I use it to quickly get imported midi files from the web up and running with voices, to hear the quality of the midi sequencing in the files).  In addition, there just aren't any posts about these kinds of issues with TTS-1 in the forum.

SOOOO, let's figure out how this is happening on your system.  Please do provide specs on your system (see my signature or others for examples - this helps us get an image of your system in analyzing issues for you).  

Additionally, please detail the precise steps you are using in a project that this happens with.  I would ask that you start with a new project with no plugins and no other audio tracks other than is required for sound routing for TTS-1 (or simple instrument track, your choice).

Thanks - I am quite sorry for the frustration you are feeling with this, I am sure this sort of thing would drive me batty too.  I think that we WILL be able to figure this out, between us all, so please hang in there and bear with us asking things that may be off the mark or seem silly - we are trying to help and trying to get up to speed on the particulars of your issue - so we have some challenges in both of those things.

Bob Bone



2013/05/28 10:26:04
scook
Since we don't know what sample rate is being used, we have to assume that everyone knows TTS-1 must be configured properly to work at sample rates higher than 44.1. Of course, there is no config for 88.2.
2013/05/28 10:34:14
daveny5
OK, but you didn't answer my questions which are important. 

ASIO mode? 
Bit depth and sample rate?

Without this info, we're all just guessing. 


2013/05/28 10:39:39
Glyn Barnes
Tried to do some testing. It works fine out of the box at 44.1 on my laptop, a business tool totally not optimised for audio. Crappy onboard sound, ASIO for all. Unfortunatly its not up to testing higher sample rated. I do not have access to my DAW.
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