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  • drum techniques ...? (p.2)
2013/05/16 18:24:58
scook
An interesting MFX, the NTONYX Style Enhancer Micro 2.0 was recently been updated to run on 64bit SONAR http://www.ntonyx.com/sem20.htm It has a free demo. For years SONAR included the demo version. It is another way to add a different feel to drums (or any other MIDI instrument).
2013/05/17 06:46:02
Bristol_Jonesey
Bansaw


Thanks everyone, good info there. Also, can I ask what good track effects you add to change the feel of your drums. I know about reverb, but what all else do you use?


EQ, Compression & Gating are by far the most widely used Fx on drums, but you shouldn't be limited to that, and neither should you apply them all the time without having good reason to do so

Time to do some reading methinks, and there are 1,000's of pages written on this stuff, all of it just a click or 2 away.
2013/05/17 08:08:27
Guitarhacker
Looking at the DAW you have in your signature.... I'd suggest buying MC6 at a minimum. It has a bunch of drum loops and patterns in it.  For the price, you can't go wrong.

I used to construct drum patterns this way.... one at a time. 

Since most common songs are based on a 4 measure repeating pattern, this works.  

Start by constructing a basic drum patter that is one measure long.... kick, snare, ride, then copy it to 4 measures total. Now copy it again to 4 more measures and edit it in the new 4..... add something else to vary it. Copy that 8 measure and paste and vary a few measures in that. Before long you have a complete verse or chorus that can be copied and pasted as needed. 

Another method is to get something like Jamstix 3 and let JS3 do all the work for you. Grab the demo and explore it. 
2013/05/17 15:07:21
Bansaw
I don't know much about MC6 but isn't it just a simplified version of Sonar Home Studio?
2013/05/18 07:43:13
RobertB
Yes.
While MC6 uses the newer X1 interface, it is limited in many ways compared to SHS6.
The Studio Instruments drums included with MC6 are not quite as sophisticated as Session Drummer 2, which you have with SHS6XL.

Drag some of the patterns from SD2 into your MIDI track. Then view them in PRV as Sidroe suggested.
You'll find some of the more interesting patterns in the Swing and Shuffle sets.
2013/05/18 08:16:03
Guitarhacker
Sorry... I'm not familiar with the older SHS6.... If RobertB says it has batter stuff in it than MC6, then, I reckon it does. 

I started with MC4 which had nothing in it but a few synths and nothing to assist in creating drums. I did have to do it the hard way. 
2013/05/19 05:57:11
pghboemike
thanks for the videos very helpful
2013/05/19 08:50:37
twaddle
On an altogether separate note,

Hey Bansaw, like your avitar.

Greggs has to be the worse bakery on the planet and much as I love their stake bakes I've burnt the roof of my mouth
off and had them collapse and fall apart on me whilst sat in my car with lava hot gravy all over my lap to have learnt
never to go there again 

Either that or their cold 

Steve
2013/05/28 18:36:28
Agentcalm
Hi there
Im really new to this but this question on drums is actually something im stuck on myself.  I have a ton of groove monkey loops but they are all "over played" as one user said earlier in this thread.  I'd like to "tap" out some basic 4 4 patterns etc but i have no idea what either PRV or step sequencer is.  Im using X2 Essential by the way.
Cheers 
2013/05/28 21:22:56
Fog
twaddle


On an altogether separate note,

Hey Bansaw, like your avitar.

Greggs has to be the worse bakery on the planet and much as I love their stake bakes I've burnt the roof of my mouth
off and had them collapse and fall apart on me whilst sat in my car with lava hot gravy all over my lap to have learnt
never to go there again 

Either that or their cold 

Steve
you can buy frozen ones in iceland , that are the same.. then you only have yourself and ya bad cooking 
to blame ;-)
obv. you need to cook em, frozen you may damage a few teeth.




as for the OP , depends on the drums and the genre. e.g. using an 808 / 909 in house vs Live drums.. 

using ghost snare notes..  it partly depends on the genre of music also.. and you can extra the groove out of a drum loop also to get the feel, if you want to recreate it.

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