I dont think they are quite there on the conspiracy stuff
 
http://www.news.com.au/na...4feab132698075cec306b2

Speaking of machines and vulnerability ...
 
http://www.cbsnews.com/ne...g-threat-old-machines/

yup governemt has everything under control ;)
 
http://www.abc.net.au/new...after-crashing/7718584

ston
Missed those bits, I'll have to re-check the film!  However, if the Bourne series of films is to be believed then they can simultaneously monitor & analyse all voice, text and video from every phone on the planet as well as every single CCTV... ;-)  I think SHIELD in the Avengers movies can do that too.

who's *they?*

Siluroo
yup governemt has everything under control ;)
 
http://www.abc.net.au/new...after-crashing/7718584

why not BE the governement then?

eph221

Siluroo
yup governemt has everything under control ;)
 
http://www.abc.net.au/new...after-crashing/7718584

why not BE the governement then?

I lack the most important prerequisate for government, patience, I learnt this from working with local goverment authorities.
Think I would need take up hard core drugs and become stoned all the time just to survive the first month or so :P

Siluroo

eph221

Siluroo
yup governemt has everything under control ;)
 
http://www.abc.net.au/new...after-crashing/7718584

why not BE the governement then?

I lack the most important prerequisate for government, patience, I learnt this from working with local goverment authorities.
Think I would need take up hard core drugs and become stoned all the time just to survive the first month or so :P

that's a valid point.  As I was driving with a friend from another state through Portland the other day he was commenting on how clean it was.  I didn't realize it until he  mentioned it (I had been living on the east coast for a long time)  We agreed that this antiseptic, liberal paradise that we live in is due to the area's Teutonic heritage.    There's a tacit nod to authority here, despite the liberal reputation.  They really hate smokers, for instance.  Thankfully I quit a couple years ago.  Even the pot smokers follow the rules!  I just wish they'd follow the traffic laws...that's one area in which our citizens express themselves freely. :D:D

eph221
...As I was driving with a friend from another state through Portland the other day he was commenting on how clean it was.  ...

When I first moved here (late 2003) I remember thinking the same thing.  Coming from So. Cal. where it's A) a desert, B) smoggy, mostly from Los Angeles and C) filled with bozos that don't care and/or gang members who tag everything, I had gotten used to being surrounded by things that were dull, dusty and dirty.  
 
I recall that one silly thought that came to mind before remembering how much it rains up here was "Wow, do they wash their houses???"  Between everything looking brilliant and clean, plus all the natural greens and other colors, I love it!
 

The view from my first apartment looking left (taken a few days after I moved in).
 

Looking to the right.
 

And straight ahead across the Columbia - that's Portland on the other side, I lived in Vancouver.

Edelweiss...edelweiss...