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  • Lets Hear from you folks who are going to stay with Sonar! (p.19)
2017/11/28 20:39:29
Mike Real
paul jenkins
Saxon1066
Official Sonar Cultist here.


somebody, maybe even you.......is last version of sonar unstable......it keeps not recognising my midi keyboard, after hours of recognising it?..........and then.....while a certain soft synth is highlighted.....it still plays the other one that's in-highlighted....like on a bass track, I double click and it brings up drums???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? is there a stabler version I can roll back to????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????.



could be a driver issue, virus, something else besides sonar etc.    do a quick install on a spare hard drive. new operating system, and just sonar. and see if you still have the same issue. if not then you know something else is to blame besides the version sonar you are using!!!
2017/11/28 21:33:37
sharke
I'm in two minds about Sonar and my future with it. On the one hand, trialing other DAWs makes you realize how many ways Sonar had it right. And it's little things, like when I play with S1 and see no peak level readout on the meters. Then there's Sonar's ease of routing, exporting, recording synths to audio etc. It has an excellent workflow and things like workspace arrangement, zooming in and out of tracks, auto-zoom, smart grid and the smart tool become almost like an extension of your brain once you're familiar with them.

On the other hand, there was a lot wrong with Sonar. And much of it was weird, almost unquantifiable stuff that's impossible to reproduce for a bug report. Things like projects developing weirdness as they got bigger and older (I even had to abandon and recreate a few projects that developed oddities). As an example, I'm working on a project now in which the Aim-Assist line is a few measures out whenever I drag a clip. I've had clips suddenly jump to another part of the screen (including other tracks) when I dropped them. I've had loads of bizarre stuff happen with automation lanes, like recording multiple parameters on a synth only to find that some of the parameters I moved didn't end up being recorded. I've had lanes disappear never to be seen again. I've had all sorts of trouble associated with those damn "orphaned envelopes," and phantom, elusive nodes that I couldn't find anywhere nonetheless artificially extending the length of my track so that "fit to screen" didn't work as expected. There is so much other annoying stuff, like the browser not supporting back/forward navigation buttons on mice, and plugin/send menus that didn't fit on screen properly. Recently I've had Sonar resetting a bunch of Waves EQ's each time I load the project, and this is a horrible, deal breaking problem that I've suffered on and off since first using Sonar in 2012.

In short, the problem with Sonar has always been that it's an old program which has picked up a bunch of oddities along the way, and has probably suffered a little under the strain of all that new stuff being piled on top of it. I'm willing to bet that there were times that Noel and his crew felt hindered by a lot of legacy stuff in the program, stuff that would probably have been written a lot differently had Sonar been designed from scratch today. The oddities that I experienced on a daily basis absolutely messed with my workflow and productivity, and as a beta tester I spent many fruitless hours trying to come up with recipes for weird, phantom bugs that would be there one minute, gone the next. I almost felt like I was not performing as a tester because of the number of weird issues I couldn't isolate, and because so many of these issues are there one minute and resolve themselves the next, it was hard not to feel like user error might be the culprit even when you were almost certain it wasn't.

So ultimately, I'm excited about leaving those oddities and quirks behind and starting afresh with a younger program that's had its foundations modeled on today's technology rather than technology from 30 years ago. I feel no "loyalty" toward Sonar, after all it's not a conscious being and has no feelings. I'm going to keep using it for as long as I'm still working on the many projects I have in development, but I think the next new project I start will be in my shiny new DAW (whatever that may be).
2017/11/28 21:49:51
telecharge
Already posted this in the Software forum 4 days ago, but I might as well post it here, too.
 
I already have a number of DAWs (probably too many), but the only flagship I've ever purchased was SONAR X3 Pro, then upgrading to "lifetime" SPlat. I'll continue using SONAR as my main squeeze for the time being, with an eye out for my next flagship.
2017/11/28 22:28:44
BJN
I just updated from X3 to Professional two weeks ago on Black Fri special the other day Doh! Havent installed it yet. am getting back into recording, after a few years of working weekends coming to an end soon, so a little more looking at this forum might of alerted me to the writing on the wall.
Will have to keep it a while to get my dollars worth. But have used X3 when I could all this time so Sonar Pro will be fine for a few more years.
 
2017/11/28 23:26:53
piangio
Here to stay!!!
2017/11/28 23:48:14
Cactus Music
Please don't answer Hijackers. If they have issues with Sonar they can start a new thread. This ones long enough without going off topic. 
 
 
Which is=  "I am staying with Sonar"  
 
Sure Sonar has it's quirks, all software seems to. But myself,  I go months on end without an issue. So once again it's the big reason to stay on board --- It works really well for me.. it certainly doesn't work that way for others and so those people should and will purchase a new DAW. There are infinite ways to use a DAW and you need to find the one that does everything you need it to do. For me it's always been Sonar. 
 
Thanks once agin to all who have checked in and are planning to stay on board. Time will tell were this leads us. 
2017/11/29 00:28:24
robbyk
I'm gonna keep on keepin' on as long as I can. I got a new pc comin' and it should arrive by 12/7 and I hope I can get sonar installed, activated and all that I need to do to get back in the game (My old 10 year old DAW died this summer). I so hope these forums will not dissolve!
2017/11/29 01:15:21
57Gregy
Still using SONAR Home Studio 6 XL. 
Will continue with it until the XP computer dies.
May continue with it on my Win 10 box.
2017/11/29 01:53:05
olive2sing
I'm staying, been with cake since PA5, When I told my wife of cakewalks demise and mentioned other daws she didn't even know there were others. Our daughter uses garage band. She's a Mac girl, and we thought we raised her right. I've learned so much from this forum, I read it every day. Thanks for your help.
 
Back when I had my Dokorder 7140, mixing through a Tapco mixer technology was passing me by, and I wonder if the heads hadn't worn out would I still be using it?
 
God bless Ya
Dave G
2017/11/29 02:21:58
Cactus Music
Ok, I said this in my opening line of this thread! 
"I'm not paying 1 cent for another DAW. Possibly never. I have the best DAW and it will still run 10 years from now,,, I'll be 74.." 
 
I lied,,  I just paid $29 for Harrison Mix Buss. But this is not to replace Sonar. I use Wave Lab for Mastering. Gold Wave for mp3 conversion and Nero for CD burning.  Mix Bus 8 has some unique mojo for working with pure audio recordings so I want it for my live audio recording set up. It's a different tool for a different job like the others I just mentioned.  
 
Today we ( Uncle Ruckel)  played a gig with 36 brand new tracks all made in Sonar and sounding great. 
Meet my new band:
Johnnyv on the Dim Pro Full acoustic bass
Sock Monkey on the Air Mini Grand, D33 and the Lounge Lizard 
Cactus on the AD2 Custom kit. 
Curt on Seagull 12 string and Banjo
Me on Guitar, Mandolin and dobro. 
 
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