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Danny Danzi

jamesyoyo


While I won't go that far to say its a bust....X2 has so many weird things happening in so many places that I am moving towards that conclusion.

I used it on one of my little machines for quite a while just to make sure it was ok. It seemed ok so I added it to one of my big recording boxes. I've had so many weird things happen, I can't even remember them all nor do I know where to start. Thank God it's not crashing on me or anything, but man....+1000 on "weird things"! If there is an Xxx whatever they come up with next, the first thing off my box is X2. Not because it doesn't work...it's just too weird to comprehend.
 
One of the things that bothers me right now....record a punch in. Slip edit one side. Go to edit/undo, it will say "undo recording" instead of "undo crop". If you click undo recording, it un-does the crop....but I'm finding little weird things all over that are just freaking me out.
 
Would I call it a bust? Absolutely not. It's been incredibly stable for me and let me tell ya, I work these programs to death. But to me, "weird" describes X2....it's not a bust at all.
 
-Danny

Did you report this to CW Danny?
 
JG
www.jerrygerber.com

You know me....I'm a report prostitute. :) The problem is....many of the issues that happen to me cannot be reproduced. Weird things just happen out of nowhere and the biggest thing for me has been I've not had the time to do anything but keep on working.
 
To answer your question though, no I never did report the "undo" thing I mentioned. I have reported as many other things as I could find before the last X2 update though.
 
-Danny

Speaking of undo. Sonar should have a separate undo history for movements, such as fader, plug-in, PC, etc., separate from the Track-Editing Undo. And offer a history, where you can select the undo's you want. 

brconflict


Speaking of undo. Sonar should have a separate undo history for movements, such as fader, plug-in, PC, etc., separate from the Track-Editing Undo. And offer a history, where you can select the undo's you want. 

I've always thought that too BR. Seperate would be great! Then again, for my little brain, it could get cornfusing. I've been using Sequoia 12 as of late...whew, insane program...but all the undo's on everything sort of drives me nuts. Even Reaper has undo's like crazy of every little thing. I'm trying to make up my mind whether I like the way Sonar is with less undo ability....or do I really want fader movements and stuff to be included....or have them in a seperate undo like you are mentioning. The more I think about it, the more it might be cool...sort of like how we have a seperate view undo. I'd be all for trying it...you got my vote. :)
 
-Danny

You're using Sequoia? That's major-label big money tools. It rocks, to say the least, but I've not been able to justify the cost. 

jsg

HeeBeeJeeBee


1. Why does it take 30 days to get a response from the Cakewalk Help now that Roland has bought them? 2. Why when I tell them that this works in X1 Producer but is broken in X2 Producer do they tell me that it must be the other VST parties so ask them? I point out that it works in X1 but is broken in X2 and they still blame the other companies. 3. Why does X2 Producer break down after 24 tracks. After 24 VST and audio tracks, suddenly the keyboard is playing 5 tracks instead of the one chosen. Again I load 30 tracks into X1 and it works perfectly. 4. Why is the last X2 bug fix from 2012? 5. Is it possible that Roland wants to not compete in the professional DAW market so they are killing Sonar Producer? That is what it looks like to me. 6. I have been with Cakewalk since before Sonar, 1998...Cakewalk 5. Now I have to learn a new technology because of this. It is making my spirit sick.

Tech support with CW is laughably slow.  Sometimes I get a response months after my inquiry.  On the contrary, MOTU has greatly improved its tech support, I often get same-day or next-day answers.
 
Roland does seem to be ruining Cakewalk, or so it appears.  I hope I am proven wrong.  Are you absolutely sure you've exhausted user-error possibilites? 
 
JG
www.jerrygerber.com
 
 

That's strange, every time I've called support I've talked to a tech between like 3 and 15 minutes...granted I haven't called in about a month and it was usually about an installation/registration problem but I've never had a problem getting through....I think maybe they see your number on caller ID and don't answer Jerry....hey, hey...easy man, just kidding : )

leebut


For someone considering moving from Cakewalk's Music Creator 6 to SX2, this kind of thread headline makes me doubtful about the move.

that's your money and your right.
but you may also not know what your missing out on.
music creator is a very basic program with entry level function.
sonar x2 producer is called producer for a reason.
ive listened to and made some incredible pieces with this software.
id suggest downloading the demo then comeback and give us your opinion.
id love to hear it. 

g_randybrown

jsg

HeeBeeJeeBee


1. Why does it take 30 days to get a response from the Cakewalk Help now that Roland has bought them? 2. Why when I tell them that this works in X1 Producer but is broken in X2 Producer do they tell me that it must be the other VST parties so ask them? I point out that it works in X1 but is broken in X2 and they still blame the other companies. 3. Why does X2 Producer break down after 24 tracks. After 24 VST and audio tracks, suddenly the keyboard is playing 5 tracks instead of the one chosen. Again I load 30 tracks into X1 and it works perfectly. 4. Why is the last X2 bug fix from 2012? 5. Is it possible that Roland wants to not compete in the professional DAW market so they are killing Sonar Producer? That is what it looks like to me. 6. I have been with Cakewalk since before Sonar, 1998...Cakewalk 5. Now I have to learn a new technology because of this. It is making my spirit sick.

Tech support with CW is laughably slow.  Sometimes I get a response months after my inquiry.  On the contrary, MOTU has greatly improved its tech support, I often get same-day or next-day answers.

Roland does seem to be ruining Cakewalk, or so it appears.  I hope I am proven wrong.  Are you absolutely sure you've exhausted user-error possibilites? 

JG
www.jerrygerber.com

That's strange, every time I've called support I've talked to a tech between like 3 and 15 minutes...granted I haven't called in about a month and it was usually about an installation/registration problem but I've never had a problem getting through....I think maybe they see your number on caller ID and don't answer Jerry....hey, hey...easy man, just kidding : )

Try writing to CW, that's what I was referring to. 
 
JG
www.jerrygerber.com

Try writing to CW, that's what I was referring to.  


Well you got me there bud as I've never needed to...that said, I hope you realize I was just poking fun...I've known for sometime now that someone of your stature/level of composing needs to be in a workflow of no-kinda-crap happening workflow...and I'm very serious about that.

g_randybrown


Try writing to CW, that's what I was referring to.  


Well you got me there bud as I've never needed to...that said, I hope you realize I was just poking fun...I've known for sometime now that someone of your stature/level of composing needs to be in a workflow of no-kinda-crap happening workflow...and I'm very serious about that.

I try not to expect software to be perfect, I'm not and no one else is and no one can create perfect things.  Crashes and instability are intolerable and will interrupt workflow, but small bugs, in fact many bugs, have workarounds.  X1 was intolerable and unusable, I am finding X2a quite usable--so far that is, I'm working on my first composition with it but so far so good.  I realize you were poking fun, no problem.
 
Jerry
www.jerrygerber.com
 
 

I'm with Danny - there are all sorts of things that pop up, disappear and then come again.  None of it is show stopping, more just frustrating.  Still, it ain't optimal, and Cake really needs to get these ... glitches out or take care of them in 3 w/o introducing too many more.

my 2 cents worth.

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