As you lower the threshold the signal gets louder. The main issue is getting the meters to say the same thing twice so I know how much limiting is happening. It's just not the way I'm used to a Limiter working. If the peak level is -1 and I want to raise the level to zero with a gain reduction of -3...then you would think lowering the threshold to -4 would do it. I'm used to a input level knob or fader instead of the threshold.

Ok, lets say the peak level is -1, and I set the ceiling to -1. I set the threshold to -3. what would the result be? I would guess somewhere around -2 gain reduction. Should it be the same everytime? I would think it should be.

Hi Clint, know what you mean, CL compresses even when set to just limit -> my opinion.
Only using it for parallel compr, it's great for that I think...easy to set.
Never on masterbus, will take some life / make it sound flat a bit.

Would set any limiter on masterbus just to limit, set 2 pre-masterbusses, 1 all dry and 1 with CL, effects etc.
Blend them to masterbus and leave good portion dry, dial in compr in the CL bus to taste.
Just writing what I would do...hope it helps

I really like the sound of the CL. I'm guilty of not using the PC as much as I should. The modules from Cakewalk are really very, very good. I'm trying to do a project with only PC modules for the first time. It's a learning exercise for me. I'm learning that I don't know as much as I thought about how the CL works! Hahaha. I usually use T-racks brickwall. I think the quality of the PC modules are about as good as anything out there.

Post had been selected were it should be. Concrete limiter is last in all tracks and busses. I will play the complete song and get -2.1 gain reduction on a guitar track. I can start half way through and sometimes get -3.7 on the same track. I don't understand that.

Could it be that when you restart the song the buffers that Sonar used  have not been cleared? This can cause a momentary spike just at the very start.

CL here doing the same, Clint.
Sonar and CL still are awesome, we learn from spotting/solving these probs that all Daws have probably.

John


Could it be that when you restart the song the buffers that Sonar used  have not been cleared? This can cause a momentary spike just at the very start.

That does happen, but I've watched closely and made sure that it wasn't what I'm seeing. At this stage I usually leave a few seconds at the start and use a volume envelope to help with that. Is there a better way? I would appreciate it John if you could try to duplicate what I'm seeing and make sure it's normal. It certainly isn't a big deal because I only try and limit a db or two and CL is transparent enough where I can't hear a spike of another db one way or the other. I can't seem to get my level to -0.1 with the CL without having huge gain reduction. Guess I'll have to do the final master with T-racks and use the pro channel for the mix. Life ain't all that bad.

Wouter Schijns


CL here doing the same, Clint.
Sonar and CL still are awesome, we learn from spotting/solving these probs that all Daws have probably.

 
 
I knew I wasn't crazy. Anyhoo the CL does sound great if I keep the gain reduction to around -3. I may try to bounce all tracks and normalize to -0.1 first and see what happens. I hate to normalize though because it raises the noise floor too. I usually use T-racks for this, but I've been so impressed with the sound of the Pro channel modules that I thought I would give it a go. I'm a persistant person so I'm just beginning to try and fiqure this out. I'm a bit surprised more people haven't chimed in with their CL knowledge, but I'm sure it's a lack of technique on my part and not a real problem.

clintmartin

John


Could it be that when you restart the song the buffers that Sonar used  have not been cleared? This can cause a momentary spike just at the very start.

That does happen, but I've watched closely and made sure that it wasn't what I'm seeing. At this stage I usually leave a few seconds at the start and use a volume envelope to help with that. Is there a better way? I would appreciate it John if you could try to duplicate what I'm seeing and make sure it's normal. It certainly isn't a big deal because I only try and limit a db or two and CL is transparent enough where I can't hear a spike of another db one way or the other. I can't seem to get my level to -0.1 with the CL without having huge gain reduction. Guess I'll have to do the final master with T-racks and use the pro channel for the mix. Life ain't all that bad.

I have not seen this behavior. I have used the CL since it came out. and it has always work fine for me.